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ThatDippyTwat wrote: | Did you read the bit about any of the "Autopilot" crashes recently?
If people are going to give up control, it has to be perfect, or damn near, as people are fickle things. |
Is it statistically relevant? There are not many of such cars, therefore every accident is very well reported. It's quite like motorcycling, people say it's dangerous. Not saying it isn't but less people die/get hurt on a motorcycle than in a car, but everyone has this mate, family member who crashed a motorcycle and is now in a wheel chair or the local cemetery. Because for some reason, crashing a car is different and you are in 99% of cases a victim of whatever happened, unless you were under the influence of drugs/alcohol.
By the way, some even say horse riding is even 5 times more dangerous than motorcycling. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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But trains don't work. Too infrequent, too many people required to make it practical to run more frequently. Too expensive. Too many people when they do run.
For me, even discounting the 25 mile journey to a mainline station , and inevitable hour wait for a connecting train it is still cheaper and quicker for me to drive from Cumbria to Edinburgh in a Citroen Dispatch.
Half the problem is speed and frequency of stopping are incompatible with large trains which is what you need for efficiency of cost.
There was a study a while back that recommended converting the railways to guided busways and to run a large number of small, frequent buses/shuttle vehicles which stop on demand. These could easily be autonamous. And electric. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.
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Go and watch anything by any London vlogger.
Robocars will deal with that how?
Heck, my regular commute would currently be un-navigable by a robocar.
They will remain toys on strictly limited routes because of reality. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Pffft, technology, stuff and nonsense.
The horse is here to stay, but the automobile is only a novelty - a fad.
The ordinary horseless carriage is at present a luxury for the wealthy; and although its price will probably fall in the future, it will never, of course, come into as common use as the bicycle.
Among other findings, the Commission concluded that these new machines could threaten public safety, “hurtling through our streets” at speeds up to 20 miles per hour. Reading the reports, you would conclude that this technology would never catch on – – and, in the interests of the nation, never should.
[All of the above are old articles about horseless carriages - it all sounds very familiar when you hear people talking about electric/autonomous cars]
(Of _COURSE_ autonomous vehicles are going to become mainstream, somewhere between 20~50 years tops. The Waymo technology is awesome - I think Tesla's isn't anywhere near level 5 autonomy, they need to get involved with LiDAR or just use Waymo for this part of their cars) ____________________ '12 NC700S & '12 CB600F Hornet [Stolen by some dickless twat] Suzuki GT500 shed |
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Machine learning means making lots and lots of wrong guesses, then a human tells it when its finally guessed right. How many kittens are you prepared to sacrifice?
Monkeywrencher wrote: | just make all vehicles automated. |
That's the end game. Roadworks, pedalists, pedestrians, kittens though.
Reality is a real downer. We should pass a law. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 127 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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