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mentalboy
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 28 Nov 2017    Post subject: MAC OS High Sierra hack Reply with quote
Whoops! Laughing

https://www.wired.com/story/macos-high-sierra-hack-root/
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PostPosted: 01:14 - 29 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
That doesn't seem like much of a bug. That could happen to any Unix/Like system if you don't add a password to Root.
What should happen though, is once the OS is installed, a password should added for Root or to be turn off.

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researchers confirm—that it's possible to block the attack by either setting a password for the root user, or disabling root access altogether


Linux does this by default and I think Windows does something along these lines.
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PostPosted: 08:44 - 29 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Going wrote:
That doesn't seem like much of a bug. That could happen to any Unix/Like system if you don't add a password to Root.
What should happen though, is once the OS is installed, a password should added for Root or to be turn off.


IIRC the root account was removed as part of the install process for HS.

I see it as a bug in the gooeey bad password timer.

It's a massive howler though, huge.
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 29 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Only appears to happen on new/clean installs not upgrades.

It's also inaccurate that "Security researchers" did anything it's been on the apple dev forums for over a week.
https://forums.developer.apple.com/thread/79235

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PostPosted: 09:55 - 29 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
ScaredyCat wrote:
Only appears to happen on new/clean installs not upgrades.
Nope, I upgraded from previous version, and I could do what el Reg suggested I might be able to do.
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 29 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
Going wrote:
That could happen to any Unix/Like system if you don't add a password to Root.

Sure, that's why GNU/Hippy OSen come:

1) Without charge.
and
2) With a SHOUTY DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTY.

What's Apple'$ excu$e?

I just pointed this out to a colleague with a Mac who scoffed at the idea. He wasn't scoffing long. I particularly like how you type "root" once and Computer Says No, then you just do it again and it gives up and lets you in. Clapping

Huh, I haven't lulled so hard since DEC put a button on the back of their workstations that rebooted straight into SU mode.
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 29 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
It does not affect Sierra or other previous macOS versions. - another reason why I don't rush to update my stuff.
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 29 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
We're wildly speculating that the first attempt actually creates a passwordless root account, then the 2nd lets you in. This is fun.
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 29 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
UnknownStuntman wrote:

IIRC the root account was removed as part of the install process for HS.


Really, Then let them burn Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

Well I suppose disabling the root account is a good idea for most users.
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PostPosted: 07:41 - 30 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: 09:06 - 30 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
I can't replicate this on my mac, I don't recall setting a root password.

Checked software updates, last update was Nov 7.

meh.
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 30 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
So this superior software company, that has the most advanced OS and all that, ... Thinking

Going wrote:
Well I suppose disabling the root account is a good idea for most users.

Do you actually expect a Mac user do anything beyond facebook, iTunes and whatever movie app there is? Tut Tut
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 30 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
RhynoCZ wrote:
Going wrote:
Well I suppose disabling the root account is a good idea for most users.

Do you actually expect a Mac user do anything beyond facebook, iTunes and whatever movie app there is? Tut Tut

I assume that it means that it was a good idea for Apple to remove the root account on most users' behalf.

Which it would have been if they hadn't monged this up so spectacularly. All joking aside, the chain of people culpable for letting this into the wild must never, ever be allowed to work with anything more complicated than a deep fat fryer.
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 30 Nov 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote
RhynoCZ wrote:
So this superior software company, that has the most advanced OS and all that, ... Thinking

It runs a million times better on my PC (which it was never designed to) than Windows 10 Wink Not a fanboy, just saying.
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