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Posted: 11:19 - 28 Nov 2017 Post subject: |
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Get a Yuasa for reliability. On the other hand my friend runs a Motobatt (yellow 12v) in his 919RR and it's been 5 years since he put it there.
So you might just have been unlucky. Is your charging system working properly?
Are you in the EU? 24 months warranty.
*Not sure about UK and warranty,
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Quote: | For the next six months, you are entitled to replacement or repair of the goods. It is up to the retailer to prove there was nothing wrong with it if they wish to get out of having to do the work. And then after six months, there is still a duty to replace or repair faulty goods, but the onus is on you, the consumer, to prove that there was something wrong.
And the key time span is six years. That's how long goods may be covered by the Sale of Goods Act. It all depends on what "sufficiently durable" means. If a light bulb goes after 13 months, the consumer is not going to be overly gutted. If their washing machine goes after the same time span they are going to be livid. |
EDIT III: This looks interesting: https://www.europe-consommateurs.eu/fileadmin/user_upload/eu-consommateurs/PDFs/PDF_EN/REPORT-_GUARANTEE/tableau_EN_Legal_commercial.pdf ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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I've never heard anything bad about Motobatt's most likely this battery was a dud.
I always use Yuasa batteries and I've had a couple of dud one's over the decades.
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Can you quantify how fine the charging system is? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I've had a Mottobat in my 1300 for about three years. No issues. I connect to a Ctek when the bike is in the garage.
But Yuasa is a very reliable battery too.
And your heading lacks depth of tech.
'Conventional' Lead acid batteries and shite compared to a good AGM for many many reasons I am not prepared to list.
Look at the specs and decide.
Batteries are bit of a living thing and do need to be treated with some respect throughout their life.
The AGM will take more abuse than the 'normal' type but they are broken if pushed too hard. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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Ooo-er, above my karma grade.
Maybe Tef can help?
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solemnwarning wrote: | Rogerborg wrote: | Can you quantify how fine the charging system is? |
As is usual, I'm full of shit.
Did a proper check in the comfort of my shed right after starting just now: at idle the system was fluctuating around 12v, from ~2500RPM to 7000RPM it seemed to be fluctuating between 13-13.3v.
Will check/clean alternator connections, if that makes no difference... bad regulator? |
One of your windings of the stator might be dead. Not that rare. There are 3 windings and you need at least 2 to make some electricity. Meaning with one dead, the stator will still work, but with rather reduced power output.
Unplugg the stator (seek 3 yellow wires).
Start the engine and check AC voltage between those 3 yellow wires (go A + B, then A + C, then B + C, you get the idea, don't you?). You're going to see between 30V and 60V (those are average values, not specific to your bike). If you see no voltage at all = dead.
The regulator and rectifier tend to be one unit. The regulator might fail (not your case), but I have personaly never seen this happening on the modern type of Reg/Rec unit, meaning the regulator failing while the rectifier being alright. Regulator failure results in overcharging.
Now, important stuff to know, the rectifier is a diode and transformes AC to DC. If this diode is burned = no voltage will pass it = no charging whatsoever. As you get DC voltage at your battery at high revs, it is alright.
I personally don't do the resistance test, if I still can test the stator in a running engine. The voltage test is much easier, for me at least. There's either AC voltage or not.
NOTE: Make sure you have the multimeter set to AC to test the stator's output
https://blog.banggood.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/AC-and-DC-e1432620580653.png
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IF everything is fine, then you have a significant shorting somewhere on the bike. Not good, not good at all. That's the stuff that puts more stress on your electrical system. So do as you said, clean everything, while checking things around. No white and definitely no green colour and rust on any electrical contacts! ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Quote: | For the next six months, you are entitled to replacement or repair of the goods. It is up to the retailer to prove there was nothing wrong with it if they wish to get out of having to do the work. And then after six months, there is still a duty to replace or repair faulty goods, but the onus is on you, the consumer, to prove that there was something wrong.
And the key time span is six years. That's how long goods may be covered by the Sale of Goods Act. It all depends on what "sufficiently durable" means. If a light bulb goes after 13 months, the consumer is not going to be overly gutted. If their washing machine goes after the same time span they are going to be livid. |
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Six months or more
If a fault develops after the first six months, the burden is on you to prove that the product was faulty at the time of delivery.
In practice, this may require some form of expert report, opinion or evidence of similar problems across the product range.
Find out more about how to return a faulty item and claim a refund, repair or replacement from a retailer.
You have six years to take a claim to the small claims court for faulty goods in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, and five years in Scotland.
This doesn't mean that a product has to last six years - just that you have this length of time in which to make a claim if a retailer refuses to repair or replace a faulty product. |
Note that here you would be looking at a small claim court... For £51.70
That is after getting a report that it was faulty. ____________________ Just because my bike was A DIVVY, does not mean i am...... |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 142 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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