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Jewlio Rides Again LLB |
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Jewlio Rides Again LLB World Chat Champion
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Posted: 11:50 - 01 Dec 2017 Post subject: |
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Check with the solicitor about tribunal costs and whether they're actually are still your problem. ____________________ Mpd72: I can categorically say i’m Brighter than that, no matter how I come across on here.
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Posted: 11:56 - 01 Dec 2017 Post subject: |
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If they are offering Voluntary Redundancy vs Redunancy, snap their hand off. Money is tax free, which adds even more onto their double offer (essentially).
My wife was made redundant in circumstances, were she was at risk (1 of 2), she opted for voluntary and came out with a 5 figure sum for a similar time period.
Any other interesting wording is questionable. Obviously, as above seek advice. But if it is clearly stated Voluntary Redundancy, you are on to a winner. ____________________ Currently: Yamaha DT 125 LC2,Repsol Fireblade, and Bumblebee MSX 125 |
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wots |
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Posted: 12:08 - 01 Dec 2017 Post subject: |
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In fact, even if it isn't voluntary redundancy and you are ultimately willing to accept a compromise agreement if that is what is offered. Ask them to bump up the money to accommodate the amount that you would have lost in tax, compared to a voluntary redundancy package. ____________________ Currently: Yamaha DT 125 LC2,Repsol Fireblade, and Bumblebee MSX 125 |
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Pete. |
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Posted: 23:28 - 03 Dec 2017 Post subject: |
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Years ago on site the site engineer had a blazing row with the site manager and got himself sacked. Silly manager should have walked him off the site right away, or at least before he had a chance to paint over the site datum and move the mark down 15mm.
Caused a lot of problems that did. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good |
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UncleFester |
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UncleFester World Chat Champion
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Posted: 07:41 - 04 Dec 2017 Post subject: |
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If you work in IT, generally you get walked off site and paid in lieu of notice, any outstanding holiday pay + whatever you are due in redundancy with all site passwords changed / access revoked.
If they don't do this then demand it - it also means you can charge them a bloody fortune if they come begging for favours instead of "you still have access, could you just".
I was asked for a day rate to come back and do some stuff for my former, i quoted them £5k cos i knew it would be a cold day in hell before they agreed and as far as i was concerned, hell could have been frozen for a millennia before i'd even consider helping.
Take the money and your skills and find a decent employer who wants you. If you time it right you get a new bike and a new job, if you don't then you get 6 months gardening leave and a new job in the summer
edit: Do NOT forget to go and sign on. ____________________ Module 1 and 2 passed - October 2014. Happy owner of a 2017 Z1000SX, ex owner of a YBR125 / CB500 / VFR800. |
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Rogerborg |
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Posted: 15:28 - 04 Dec 2017 Post subject: |
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Fair point, that is what ACAS reckon.
ACAS wrote: | Code of Practice [...] For the settlement agreement to be legally binding |
ACAS recommendations are binding over courts? If the employee is unable to afford professional advice, does that mean that the agreement is not binding on the employer, or is it not binding on the employee?
I rather suspect that the truth is closer to: Failure to follow the Code will not make an organisation liable to proceedings or lead to an adjustment of any compensatory award, but the guidance in the Code will be taken into account by employment tribunals in relevant cases and failure to follow its recommendations could lead to adverse findings against the relevant party. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Tracey Suntan-King |
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Tracey Suntan-King World Chat Champion
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Posted: 15:40 - 04 Dec 2017 Post subject: |
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Rogerborg wrote: | Tracey Suntan-King wrote: | The employer must pay for your independent legal advice in these circumstances. |
Because why?
The nearest that I can see is paying at most 40% of one week's pay (i.e. 2 day's worth) for job seeking.
Oh, hang on: "The statutory redundancy notice periods are: 12 weeks’ notice if employed for 12 years or more"
https://www.gov.uk/redundant-your-rights/notice-periods
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A CA can contain any number as long as both parties (under advice) agree is acceptable.
Consultation is irrelevant, this is a mutually agreed end to the employment contract by way of a Compromise Agreement, it is not a redundancy in the statutory sense.
I've done many of these during my career, for employees and I accepted one myself, which contained a very large number, apropos nothing, except I would not accept less than that to go quietly........... ____________________ Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're probably right |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 116 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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