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PostPosted: 10:39 - 09 Dec 2017    Post subject: Thug driver jailed for nine years Reply with quote

Thug driver jailed for nine years after chasing down and killing motorcyclist, 22, in road rage attack

This vigilante got it wrong ....

https://tech2.org/uk/chilling-footage-shows-last-moments-of-deadly-road-rage-chase-as-driver-pursues-terrified-motorcyclist-before-horror-crash/
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 09 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Copycat73 wrote:

This vigilante got it wrong ....


Nope, you did. Glad the thieving druggie filth is dead. Shame a good man had to do time to accomplish this.

Also mentioned elsewhere.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=4520897#4520897

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PostPosted: 11:44 - 09 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

0oops .. seems this is a re-post ..

sympathy .. not got any to give ...
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 09 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pigs do fuckall, innocent man takes his own action as a result, ends up doing nine years for accidentally killing the scumbag. What the actual fuck?

Prosecute the useless fucking police-force too, for shared culpability. If they spent as much time and resources defending peoples property as they do chasing down weed growers there would be far less need for joe public to do their job for them. Absolute travesty of justice, but same-old same-old in this sewer of a cuntry.
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 09 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony Martin with a Fiesta. Good lad. Better him doing 4 1/2 years than some pikey doing a lifetime of robbing.
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 10 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Tony Martin with a Fiesta. Good lad. Better him doing 4 1/2 years than some pikey doing a lifetime of robbing.


Agree with that wholeheartedly, Tony Martin did what he thought was right, this fella too.
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PostPosted: 07:31 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the CPS / law makers who need taking out back and dealing with.
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PostPosted: 08:26 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

King29 wrote:
Tony Martin did what he thought was right, this fella too.


I agree, from what I remember Tony Martin had been burgled repeatedly with no help whatsoever from the police. He was pushed to the point of breaking.
I remember a US guest on a morning show being asked for his thoughts on it and he just looked stunned.
Remote farm, shot criminals who had broken into his house in the middle of the night. Why was he arrested?
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PostPosted: 09:14 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Remote farm, shot criminals who had broken into his house in the middle of the night. Why was he arrested?

Because he exterminated the vermin from behind. Apparently he needed to give them yet another chance to invade his home.

Top trolling, after he got out, he claimed that he still had an illegal shooter and lo and behold, the blue thunder of Norfolk constabulary descended on him. Investigating burglaries remains on their to-do list.
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Because he exterminated the vermin from behind. Apparently he needed to give them yet another chance to invade his home.


It's interesting that he was convicted of murder on the argument that he was lying in wait for them and intended to kill them. Moreso when you consider that he was shooting birdshot and the one that died did so later from his injuries.
If he'd really been going for the murder kill wouldn't he have off'd them and then buried them somewhere on his 300 acre farm? If he had, would any of us ever have heard of him?
From what I can make out the subsequent reduction to manslaughter was due to him being bit of a fruitcake anyway.
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From what I can make out the subsequent reduction to manslaughter was due to him being bit of a fruitcake anyway.

Diminished responsibility from having paranoid personality disorder exacerbated by previous burglaries (and the refusal of NorPlod to collar the culprits).

You're not crazy if they are out to get you.

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PostPosted: 11:55 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

The powers that be are more afraid of the masses taking the law into their own hands than any scumbag repeat offender on his 60th court case. That's why the bloke got 9 years. If he had nicked the car and killed someone while joyriding he wouldn't have got as long Rolling Eyes Read the Martins case and they try and make out the fact he had used an illegal gun was the main reason for his long sentence comes through (oh, and shooting them in the back because that isn't British).

Also why do you think the papers are 'editing' the story to try and hide the fact he was on the stolen bike. Same reason all the immigrant crime/riots around Europe is not reported any more, if the populace are treated like mushrooms, they won't upset the applecart.
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

jnw010 wrote:
King29 wrote:
Tony Martin did what he thought was right, this fella too.


I agree, from what I remember Tony Martin had been burgled repeatedly with no help whatsoever from the police. He was pushed to the point of breaking.
I remember a US guest on a morning show being asked for his thoughts on it and he just looked stunned.
Remote farm, shot criminals who had broken into his house in the middle of the night. Why was he arrested?

It's strange. I think the issue in the UK is reasonable force, you're meant to know the exact level of violence required to incapacitate but not seriously injure the perp.
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
I think the issue in the UK is reasonable force, you're meant to know the exact level of violence required to incapacitate but not seriously injure the perp.


If anyone broke into my house wanting to rob me or cause me harm, I'd lamp the fecker with the nearest heavy object and worry about the consequences later. TBH I'd probably get something sharp and put it in his hand or nearby and say he came at me with that. Having morals is wonderful, when it comes to the unknown I'd rather get the first blow in and have the advantage.
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
I think the issue in the UK is reasonable force, you're meant to know the exact level of violence required to incapacitate but not seriously injure the perp.

Through gritted teeth, the CPS admit "If there has been an attack so that self defence is reasonably necessary, it will be recognised that a person defending himself cannot weigh to a nicety the exact measure of his defensive action. If the jury thought that that in a moment of unexpected anguish a person attacked had only done what he honestly and instinctively thought necessary, that would be the most potent evidence that only reasonable defensive action had been taken"

Not that they bother to apply that criteria when they've pre-decided who the Baddie is.
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

King29 wrote:
M.C wrote:
I think the issue in the UK is reasonable force, you're meant to know the exact level of violence required to incapacitate but not seriously injure the perp.


If anyone broke into my house wanting to rob me or cause me harm, I'd lamp the fecker with the nearest heavy object and worry about the consequences later. TBH I'd probably get something sharp and put it in his hand or nearby and say he came at me with that. Having morals is wonderful, when it comes to the unknown I'd rather get the first blow in and have the advantage.

That's how most peoples mind works, you a) take them down with minimal risk to yourself and b) keep hitting them until you're sure they're down. The courts seem to like breaking down altercations into a this is where you crossed the line scenario, when in reality very little of what you do is a conscious act.

I also agree, all these stories do is change how I'd behave after the incident. I don't see any mention of how they caught Fiesta bloke (did he stop or run?). The smart thing to do might be cause a collision, leave, then wait to be told to collect your scrap bike.
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 11 Dec 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

Top trolling, after he got out, he claimed that he still had an illegal shooter and lo and behold, the blue thunder of Norfolk constabulary descended on him. Investigating burglaries remains on their to-do list.


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Mr Martin insisted that police were in denial of the scale of illegally held guns in Britain and dismissed his own local force, Norfolk Constabulary as 'a bunch of half wits.'


Explains why I used to have trouble with my local plodders. Laughing
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