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ScaredyCat wrote: | A50 is reversible* |
Sure. I mean, it doesn't say that, but a chap who might have been in the room when someone else was writing it, and who shrieked before the referendum that the (unwritten) intent was that it would be totallly irrevocable, is now saying that the (unwritten) intent is that it's unilaterallly revocable any time we like.
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jjdugen wrote: | Someone explain, please.
We are a net contributor to the EU budget, importing more than we export as well as the membership fees. But we are borrowing billons to prop up the economy. So.... We are putting our grandchildren in debt to stay in the EU..... Please tell me this has some element of sense in it....... |
It is if you look at the facts. First let's make the big difference from the money spent by the UK state and the money circulating in the UK private business.
And about UK borrowing billions - true, but that is not to help the economy - the money from the state purse go mostly in the pockets of the state bureaucrats and their friends nothing to do with "saving" the economy.
Your picture is wrong and distorted because you have ommited, taxes that are received and any private profits. FYI UK is not North Korea. Means the private money are the most important part of the economy. They create jobs, profits and GDP.
1. How much money UK spends for EU - let say £1 pound in fee (spent by the UK state).
2. How much the UK is profiting from that? For each pound spend in fee UK gets back £10 pounds private, tax and other profits.
The Private Business Say wrote: | The CBI estimates that the net benefit of EU membership is worth 4-5% of GDP to the UK, or £62bn-£78bn per year. |
So actually you by leaving the EU are wrecking the economy and losing the profits which otherwise would have been realised by the membership of the biggest free market in the world.
UK’s ‘net contribution’ to EU is about £8.6 billion per year.
Only EU citizen's like me we pay £12 billion net tax per year after subtracting any benefits and cost for the UK.
So the idea that somehow UK loses by the EU membership is pure bullshit.
The reality is the UK already is losing billions despite not left yet.
Glad you have mentioned UK state borrowing - due to Brexit antics interest on the UK state borrowing ALREADY have risen with £7.5 billion PER year.
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Val wrote: |
Maybe. Maybe the pigs can fly. I read somewhere few days ago some prominent leaver saying the UK will need 100 years and than everything will be much better. |
Must be true then.
Val wrote: | But the facts show in the next 20 years it will get much worst because of Brexit. |
Facts you say? The future 20 years is factually laid out already? Do you have tonights lottery numbers too?
Val wrote: | I am glad you guys plan for so long in the future |
20 or 100 years?
Val wrote: | Me - I am simple man can't plan for more than 5 years ahead... |
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Fewer immigrants and leaving the EU.
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Val wrote: | jjdugen wrote: | Someone explain, please.
We are a net contributor to the EU budget, importing more than we export as well as the membership fees. But we are borrowing billons to prop up the economy. So.... We are putting our grandchildren in debt to stay in the EU..... Please tell me this has some element of sense in it....... |
It is if you look at the facts. First let's make the big difference from the money spent by the UK state and the money circulating in the UK private business.
And about UK borrowing billions - true, but that is not to help the economy - the money from the state purse go mostly in the pockets of the state bureaucrats and their friends nothing to do with "saving" the economy.
Your picture is wrong and distorted because you have ommited, taxes that are received and any private profits. FYI UK is not North Korea. Means the private money are the most important part of the economy. They create jobs, profits and GDP.
1. How much money UK spends for EU - let say £1 pound in fee (spent by the UK state).
2. How much the UK is profiting from that? For each pound spend in fee UK gets back £10 pounds private, tax and other profits.
The Private Business Say wrote: | The CBI estimates that the net benefit of EU membership is worth 4-5% of GDP to the UK, or £62bn-£78bn per year. |
So actually you by leaving the EU are wrecking the economy and losing the profits which otherwise would have been realised by the membership of the biggest free market in the world.
UK’s ‘net contribution’ to EU is about £8.6 billion per year.
Only EU citizen's like me we pay £12 billion net tax per year after subtracting any benefits and cost for the UK.
So the idea that somehow UK loses by the EU membership is pure bullshit.
The reality is the UK already is losing billions despite not left yet.
Glad you have mentioned UK state borrowing - due to Brexit antics interest on the UK state borrowing ALREADY have risen with £7.5 billion PER year.
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You're conflating the Eu with the Single market, Eu membership does not assist in economic growth, the SM does.
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ScaredyCat wrote: | Juncker wrote: | “Turkey has been moving away from the European Union in leaps and bounds. That rules out EU membership for Turkey in the foreseeable future.” |
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I still can't understand why they were ever considered for membership in the first place. They've come to their senses on that one then. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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RhynoCZ wrote: |
Not a European country.
Not fufilling the Copenhagen criteria. |
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RhynoCZ wrote: | mpd72 wrote: | But we're still throwing EU money at it for some bizarre reason. |
To keep them happy, so the Turks don't flood Europe. And yes, it is Germans fault, as always. |
Have they not heard of hard borders?
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 130 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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