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Posted: 09:26 - 18 Dec 2017 Post subject: All bike gear to be CE labelled from 2018 |
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Via Bennetts, as usual:
From 21st April 2018, all motorcycle gear sold in the EU must be CE labelled.
That appears to mean the actual garment itself, rather than just the inserts.
I stress "labelled" rather than tested, since as far as I can tell, all labelling is self "certification". I've never been able to verify that any helmet marked as ECE 22.05 has actually been independently tested as such, other than after the fact by SHARP.
I wonder what this will mean in practice? I expect that the majority of eBay tat vendors will continue to peddle chicken-skin leathers and fashion wear as "motorcycle" gear without let or hindrance (possible with a "not for the motorscootist to uses" disclaimer), while the likes of J&S are going to have a lot less stock at higher prices.
The threat of being made to wear CE gear seems a long way away, but Le Frogs will lead the way on that, we can be sure. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Posted: 11:25 - 18 Dec 2017 Post subject: |
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One might also ask how you can have freedom of movement if you become a criminal the moment you ride into France without your CE gloves, helmet with 4 reflective stickers, spare glasses, two breathalysers and all the other wankery that Le Frogs demand. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Matt B wrote: | France is a pain, but only a minor one. |
A very minor one. I had helmet stickers but didn't put them on. Had a hi viz in the tank bag. That was it. I wouldn't even know without going to look if any of my kit has CE labels. Once over in Abroadland, I never even thought about any of that stuff. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
THERE'S MILLIONS OF CHICKENSTRIPS OUT THERE! |
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The thing is, we sit here contemplating a tour in France. As motorcyclists, we spend a lot of time considering what we need to do to be legal there. But the French fuzz don't spend every minute considering how they can nick visiting bikers. If you're behaving yourself, you'll be left to get on with it. It ain't the Soviet Union over there yet, y'know ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Googling what the Czech authorities say about French
Motorcycle helmets must have reflective features in accordance with ECE 22-04, paragraph 6.16. Helmets approved by the French authorities without reflective stickers may be used.
Motor vehicle drivers and motorcyclists must have an alcotester in their means of transport but no fine will be imposed if they can not show it during a police roadside check.
Hi-Vis vest + gloves and helmet.
Headsets for listening music and handsfree earphones are forbidden for cyclists, motorcyclists, quad bike drivers and motor vehicle drivers. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Posted: 15:31 - 18 Dec 2017 Post subject: |
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RhynoCZ wrote: | Googling what the Czech authorities say about French
Motorcycle helmets must have reflective features in accordance with ECE 22-04, paragraph 6.16. Helmets approved by the French authorities without reflective stickers may be used.
Motor vehicle drivers and motorcyclists must have an alcotester in their means of transport but no fine will be imposed if they can not show it during a police roadside check.
Hi-Vis vest + gloves and helmet.
Headsets for listening music and handsfree earphones are forbidden for cyclists, motorcyclists, quad bike drivers and motor vehicle drivers. |
And.... Slap on the back of the legs if you dare to use a speed camera detector. And satellite navigation C/W 'safety camera' location warnings must be disabled.
Everyone knows the real reason to want out of Europe is so we can avoid the Frogs. Worse than the Tallies and the Krouts (and the Spanish/Belgians/Swiss/Greeks/Portugeezers/Dutch/and any of the others.) ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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You can buy CE marked labels on ebay.
100 of them for just over a tenner with whatever you want printed on them.
The labels are CE marked as they are compliant with the EN71-3:2013+A1+AC1 regulations (as non-toxic labels). ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Posted: 22:50 - 01 Jan 2018 Post subject: Re: All bike gear to be CE labelled from 2018 |
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https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/features/product/motorcycle-clothing-the-ce-approval-law-explained
“As part of the working group that developed the original CE standards, I never wanted to see riders forced to wear protective kit,” says Paul. “I just wanted a customer to be able to go into a shop, make a judgement and complete an informed purchase based on an independent testing standard. It still is my position, and I think the blanket categorisation of all motorcycle clothing is illogical. But it’s an extreme reaction that the industry as a whole is responsible for creating; if every company had produced a niche range of CE-approved products – even 5% of its entire range – I don’t think we’d be in this situation. But for too long the majority stance was to ignore the standards, while continuing to market clothing as being protective.”
So the industry was probably being cnuts just to lever more £££ by using the Laws to 'enhance' the image of their products.
'As seen on CE'
It is not really as much of a Show Stopper as the Third Directive is/was.
I believe a standard is only useful if it is an actual standard and has some kind of measure to enforce/support it.
Like that article clearly explains, some manufacturers would jump on the PPE band wagon to clearly Dupe their consumers.
Although pinning them down on that would prove impossible as the likes of Oxford believe they sell decent kwality stuff. Aye right Oxford. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 2 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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