Lets lighten the discussions... Latte levy!!!

[stinkwheel]

I was noticing last night that a lot of the things you can buy in the chill counter in plastic are available from the freezer in cardboard for about half the price.

Like fish fingers, pizzas, fish cakes, chicken nuggets, quorn etc. etc.
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[Sun Wukong]

Again, plan properly and it won't be an issue, just like the plastic bag tax.

Plastic bag tax reduced usage of plastic bags by something like 80% overnight, whilst raising funds for environmental causes.

Disposable cup tax will do similar.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5613faf8e4b051c1fb534ae3/t/56eeff768259b504619a441f/1458503560881/

This, essentially.

Packaging is a thornier issue, as Smegballs mentions. I drive my housemates nuts by cleaning out plastic tubs and keeping them as ad hoc containers. I now just keep the nice ones , which they regularly use now as well.

They are really good quality bits of kit, designed for good loss prevention, and to just throw them away instantly is heart breaking.

We will start to see more and more of these taxes in future, which could essentially be called laziness taxes. Again, I could bore you with freshly learned stuff, but essentially we are not paying the true cost for goods... many costs are left external.

By taxing things it is an attempt to discourage use, and to make the actual cost something closer to the true cost. A cup might only cost 0.1p to produce... but the effect of water degradation in production, air pollution in transport, land use for disposal, etc etc. Probably does start coming close to 25p.

Or just bring your own cup

Considering the cost of a StarCost is now not far off a fiver anyway, the proportional increase of the tax is negligible... and yet will have a profound effect I'm sure.
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[Freddyfruitba...]

One of the biggest causes of plastic microbeads accumulating in the environment are tyres, apparently...

Coming soon.... cardboard tyres for your bike?
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[Sun Wukong]

Step 1: Identify problem.

Step 2: Tax the problem.

Step 3: Ignore the bawwing and boo-hooing and economy will fall on its head and unemployment will divide by zero.

Step 4: Wait for the incentive caused by the tax to lead to innovation.

Step 5: Producers can slowly move to the substitute, as and when they like. Original thing is available, just expensive and irritating.

Step 6: Receive bacon.

It's conceptually the same as when they banned CFC's or Tetraethyl lead... looking back on it now, it seemed like it was obvious, and that is happened over night.

Actually, everyone fought it, the economy was threatened with implosion and doom, and it took years of squabbling between countries to try and get everyone to toe the line.

And now we have excellent substitutes for both, or we innovated solutions to not require them in the first place... often cheaper and more efficient too.

Maybe not cardboard tyres, but rubber not laced with plastic microbeads would be good
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[Dave70]

Maybe I'm missing something but, if the plan behind the tax is to get rid of these items and not just another stealth tax, why not just ban said items so only eco friendly options are available?
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[Polarbear]

Have they said where this 25p tax is going? I have heard suggestions it will go towards taking the cups to one of the few recycle plants available but personally I can't see that as the effort to strip the mugs from the other waste will be difficult and expensive I would have thought.

Also, the 5p tax on bags might have reduced the usage, but where the 5p on the bags they do sell goes is up to the shop is it not, with no compulsion on them giving it to anyone. I'm sure starbucks/costas and the like will love that if it's the same rule for them.

Call me cynical, but when the bin men throw the black rubbish sacks into the back of their lorry, closely followed by the pink recyclable bags, all in the same place, I don't have the strongest feeling that they are going to be separated at the other end and my recycling habit takes another knock.
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If we taxed hipster beards and tashes, we could tax c4nt at source...
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[Polarbear]

Not sure if you are being sarcastic 'arry, but

all

During the year from 7 April 2016 to 6 April 2017, almost two-thirds of retailers told us they gave over £66 million to good causes - amounting to 4 pence for every single-use bag sold by them.

So in the 66% of retailers that even bothered to respond, they are keeping at least a penny per bag back for themselves.
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