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PostPosted: 13:32 - 09 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
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Honestly I think you're putting too much thought and consideration into this, the majority of cars aren't as low as a Celica and will be fine.



Have you had a pregnant woman on your hands? Believe me, he's not putting too much thought into it.


Very much this.

It's her that's chopping n changing. I'd have a 2 grand banger. I drive around in a £600 ignis sport ffs. It's up to her and she can't make up her mind. She tells me I should just pick but if I chose the one that she decides is wrong in 6 months time, I will be in for earache.
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 09 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve been trying to find myself a new car and narrowed it down to three options for affordable, yet enjoyable motoring:
-Citroen DS3 THP
-Vauxhall Astra GTC 1.6T (I say GTC because they only did the 1.4T engine option in the 5 door for 2012-2015 so a 1.6T 5 door is either knackered or expensive)
-Vauxhall Insignia 2.0T 4x4 (have yet to find one with the options list filled out. I want the leather seats and the sat nav and less than a million miles on the clock)

I realise my priorities may be slightly different to yours, but I was only looking for a DS3 because it’s the only car that me and my better half both like.
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 09 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrSnoosnoo wrote:
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Have you had a pregnant woman on your hands? Believe me, he's not putting too much thought into it.


Very much this.

It's her that's chopping n changing. I'd have a 2 grand banger. I drive around in a £600 ignis sport ffs. It's up to her and she can't make up her mind. She tells me I should just pick but if I chose the one that she decides is wrong in 6 months time, I will be in for earache.


Yep, having the same conversation with my preggo Mrs about the car - she is due to pop middle/end of May. Our conversation is between V90 - estate or S90 saloon. Estate is £20/month more than the saloon. Estate means easier loading in and out of the car and I asked her if that’s worth £20/month for the convenience. Could I get a straight answer.... Laughing bearing in mind I won’t be the one to have a problem because 6ft 5 and have stretch Armstrong arms to slide stuff/buggy (giant travel system) into the back of a saloon.
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 09 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the same considerations and ended up with a V60 1.6 Drive (Diesel but £30 tax) in SE LUX trim (it's a posh ex-reps car). Slightly smaller boot than the V70 but still good enough for a buggy system. The only current complaint is with the Cybex Sirona you're limited in how far you can move the front seat back.
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PostPosted: 16:09 - 09 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find the easy way is to just throw money at them until they go and buy a car themselves.

Then, when they realise that they've bought one thats too small for themselves, the 3 children and me, plus anything approaching a duffel bag in the boot for a day trip out, you get to point out it's their fault that we can't now use the car to go on holiday...
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 09 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

dydey90 wrote:
I’ve been trying to find myself a new car and narrowed it down to three options for affordable, yet enjoyable motoring:
-Citroen DS3 THP
-Vauxhall Astra GTC 1.6T (I say GTC because they only did the 1.4T engine option in the 5 door for 2012-2015 so a 1.6T 5 door is either knackered or expensive)
-Vauxhall Insignia 2.0T 4x4 (have yet to find one with the options list filled out. I want the leather seats and the sat nav and less than a million miles on the clock)

I realise my priorities may be slightly different to yours, but I was only looking for a DS3 because it’s the only car that me and my better half both like.



My driving instructor had one
Had to cancel two lessons because car broke
And went wrong in France on holiday
Was a twelve month old car at the time
She now has a 10 year old Saab
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 09 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
I find the easy way is to just throw money at them until they go and buy a car themselves.

Then, when they realise that they've bought one thats too small for themselves, the 3 children and me, plus anything approaching a duffel bag in the boot for a day trip out, you get to point out it's their fault that we can't now use the car to go on holiday...


You're kidding?

You mean you didn't get the "well why did you let me buy it in the first place then ???"
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 09 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr. DaveJPS wrote:
I had the same considerations and ended up with a V60 1.6 Drive (Diesel but £30 tax) in SE LUX trim (it's a posh ex-reps car). Slightly smaller boot than the V70 but still good enough for a buggy system. The only current complaint is with the Cybex Sirona you're limited in how far you can move the front seat back.


Interesting, we opted for a Cybex Cloud Q car seat but hoped because of my penchant for barges it shouldn’t be an issue with seat positions because of stretch Armstrong legs.
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 09 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the Civic. I had the 2.2cdti version 58 plate years ago when we had our first littleun.

Although the doors are small, they do open 90 degrees, so are actually better than most cars I’ve had with kids including:

Volkswagen Passat
Mercedes C Class
Audi A4 Avant - current car.

Ultimately, car seats are a faff whatever car you own. Although it took the piss more in the wife’s Mini 3 door. Hence we chopped it in for a 5 door Fiesta Titanium.
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 09 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodsi wrote:


Interesting, we opted for a Cybex Cloud Q car seat but hoped because of my penchant for barges it shouldn’t be an issue with seat positions because of stretch Armstrong legs.


It wasn't an issue with the atom we had before, until he got too big for it. But the sirona is a beast as it can be reclined and can act as a forward facing once they are large enough
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in a similar position a couple of years ago, went with a lease on a new hyundai ioniq hybrid. The KIA niro is essentially the same thing, but a little higher and cheaper.

There are a few unexpected requirements that parenthood brought on, and worth making sure a prospective car has:
1. Cupholders. Several. Cups will be taken out to the car, but cupholders will only be emptied while you do it - she will have excuses about not enough hands when carrying a baby.
2. An interior light above the rear seats, so you can see what you're doing to load a baby into a car seat in the dark.
3. Heated seats. If the baby falls asleep during a drive, you or her will be sitting there until baby wakes up. Hybrid is also good here, so you can keep the heating on without having the engine running.
4. Digital radio, Android Auto/Apple Carplay. Same reasons are point 3.
5. Really good keyless entry. On ours, the car wakes up when you walk near it, you can press a little button on the door handle to unlock it. Easier than fishing for keys in your pocket when you're also holding a squirming child.
6. Warranty and reliability. I live in London. We have decent public tranport. It's still a massive pain in the arse having to use it with a baby.

Those requirements appeared after getting the car. In terms of straight numbers, £6k is a bit of an odd amount. It isn't enough to get something decent and 3 years old in Focus class. When I was looking, a £6k car was going to be a £2k car in two years.

There are also some quite tempting looking deals on the new Nissan Leaf, if you want to feel like driving the future. The autonomy (self driving) stuff on some of the new cars is pretty sweet, too.
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robby wrote:

2. An interior light above the rear seats, so you can see what you're doing to load a baby into a car seat in the dark.


This is a very good point! Our Corsa (which the wife uses mostly) is 5 door, but has no rear interior light. Trying to find the seat belt in the dark is a nightmare. It wasn't as bad when we had a semi-permanent base and fit the travel seat in to it, but now I have a 3 and 7 year old, it's a pain in the arse trying to find the seat belt clip with bulky booster seats in the way.
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robby wrote:
I was in a similar position a couple of years ago, went with a lease on a new hyundai ioniq hybrid. The KIA niro is essentially the same thing, but a little higher and cheaper.

There are a few unexpected requirements that parenthood brought on, and worth making sure a prospective car has:
1. Cupholders. Several. Cups will be taken out to the car, but cupholders will only be emptied while you do it - she will have excuses about not enough hands when carrying a baby.
2. An interior light above the rear seats, so you can see what you're doing to load a baby into a car seat in the dark.
3. Heated seats. If the baby falls asleep during a drive, you or her will be sitting there until baby wakes up. Hybrid is also good here, so you can keep the heating on without having the engine running.
4. Digital radio, Android Auto/Apple Carplay. Same reasons are point 3.
5. Really good keyless entry. On ours, the car wakes up when you walk near it, you can press a little button on the door handle to unlock it. Easier than fishing for keys in your pocket when you're also holding a squirming child.
6. Warranty and reliability. I live in London. We have decent public tranport. It's still a massive pain in the arse having to use it with a baby.

Those requirements appeared after getting the car. In terms of straight numbers, £6k is a bit of an odd amount. It isn't enough to get something decent and 3 years old in Focus class. When I was looking, a £6k car was going to be a £2k car in two years.

There are also some quite tempting looking deals on the new Nissan Leaf, if you want to feel like driving the future. The autonomy (self driving) stuff on some of the new cars is pretty sweet, too.


Interesting, but in terms of staying in the car whilst the child is asleep i am not sure we would need to do - you have car seats with 'bases' the base stays in the car and the seat simply drops into it and clicks into place allowing you to clip and unclip the car seat out of.

My 'plan' as naive as it may be is put child (baby) in seat inside the flat, carry out to the car and click into the base. The reverse when taking it out of the car and back indoors.

If the baby is sleeping the car seat can also be reclined when not in the car so disturbances can be kept to a minimum and its healthier for them to not be in a car seat position for too long when they are small.

Source: - wife is an OT with Pediatric specialism.
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

We don't have a clippy car seat, just a plain fixed one. If you do have an isofix clippy seat then your plan to load the baby into the car seat inside will work while they are small. Less easy once they get over 1 and go all squirmy.

Likewise, moving the baby is likely to wake the baby. I'd rather be bored sat in the car, than running around after a baby or getting screamed at for waking it up.

Your experience may vary. I don't like kids. The more they sleep, the less I have to do.
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 6k is a budget of what money we have in the bank after we clear the balance of the buy now pay later kitchen, buy a new bathroom and other shizz in the house.
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrSnoosnoo wrote:
The 6k is a budget of what money we have in the bank after we clear the balance of the buy now pay later kitchen, buy a new bathroom and other shizz in the house.


Then I would buy a car that is a couple of years older and depreciated more.

To me there is nothing in between Leasing a new car on a good deal (this is important as I could have paid £438/PM for a middle of the range VW tiguan if I wasnt aware of much much better deals out there. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Fuck That!) and paying >£1000 on a 'banger' and using it until its economically not worth paying for a repair or even a number of serviceable items and starting again.

And on that basis why not spend £2500 or whatever on a slightly older car and then keep £3500 in the bank. - you cant loose £3500 in depreciation on a £2500 car!
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodsi wrote:
Then I would buy a car that is a couple of years older and depreciated more.

To me there is nothing in between Leasing a new car on a good deal (this is important as I could have paid £438/PM for a middle of the range VW tiguan if I wasnt aware of much much better deals out there. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Fuck That!) and paying >£1000 on a 'banger' and using it until its economically not worth paying for a repair or even a number of serviceable items and starting again.

And on that basis why not spend £2500 or whatever on a slightly older car and then keep £3500 in the bank. - you cant loose £3500 in depreciation on a £2500 car!


Erm. That is what I would do. Would you mind telling my missus this?
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robby wrote:

1. Cupholders. Several. Cups will be taken out to the car, but cupholders will only be emptied while you do it - she will have excuses about not enough hands when carrying a baby.


Based on this alone I’d recommend a Vauxhall Meriva. The sheer volume of cup space makes up for the disappointment caused by the rest of the car.
Also, has suicide doors at the back for easy loading of children.
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrSnoosnoo wrote:
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Then I would buy a car that is a couple of years older and depreciated more.

To me there is nothing in between Leasing a new car on a good deal (this is important as I could have paid £438/PM for a middle of the range VW tiguan if I wasnt aware of much much better deals out there. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Fuck That!) and paying >£1000 on a 'banger' and using it until its economically not worth paying for a repair or even a number of serviceable items and starting again.

And on that basis why not spend £2500 or whatever on a slightly older car and then keep £3500 in the bank. - you cant loose £3500 in depreciation on a £2500 car!


Erm. That is what I would do. Would you mind telling my missus this?


That’s your job, you need to have her told!

Surely logic and reason can’t be lost on your lady?
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

dydey90 wrote:
Vauxhall Meriva.

I bought myself one of the older ones as a banger, and soon lost it to Mrs Borg. Decent space inside, easy access, good visibility, compact boxy exterior so easy to park for the ladies, bless 'em. Not quick or thrilling, but it had a certain eager-puppy appeal. Worth considering.
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the topic of sleeping babies. Start/stop technology is a nightmare for waking a sleeping baby.

For some reason when the system cuts in, the baby recognises there is no longer vibration and wakes up. Disaster when your second child is the worlds worst car passenger and cries if she is not asleep.
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 15 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

dydey90 wrote:
Robby wrote:

1. Cupholders. Several. Cups will be taken out to the car, but cupholders will only be emptied while you do it - she will have excuses about not enough hands when carrying a baby.


Based on this alone I’d recommend a Vauxhall Meriva. The sheer volume of cup space makes up for the disappointment caused by the rest of the car.
Also, has suicide doors at the back for easy loading of children.


Kia Sedonna for cup holders. They have 14, yes 14 cup holders!
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 15 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodsi wrote:
That’s your job, you need to have her told!

Surely logic and reason can’t be lost on your lady?


She's crying for reasons unknown to her.

She's biting my head off for no real reason, I'm just as charming as normal.

She has now succumbed to her hormones, she is becoming primal. Reason is bollocks.
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Rogerborg wrote:
dydey90 wrote:
Vauxhall Meriva.

I bought myself one of the older ones as a banger, and soon lost it to Mrs Borg. Decent space inside, easy access, good visibility, compact boxy exterior so easy to park for the ladies, bless 'em. Not quick or thrilling, but it had a certain eager-puppy appeal. Worth considering.


I've read about these, I thought the suicide doors would be helpful but apparently drains are quick to block and water begins to fill the floor.

Probably an easy remedy and to keep on top of with maintenance.
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 15 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've not read the thread to see what's already been suggested but...

My Grandparents have got a Vauxhall Meriva (Newer one) and it's basically a posturepedic vehicle for old and/or decrepit people.

Now I'm not implying your lady is old and decrepit, but the functionality may suit her pregnant-ness.

Upright seats that are literally at arse level when stood next to the car - no dropping into a low seat.
Super neutral and back friendly driving position.
Windows and mirrors suited to somebody who might not be able to twist to look round too easy.

Dunno about price or known issues though.
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