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PostPosted: 10:37 - 02 Feb 2018    Post subject: Media social engineering Reply with quote

So Taffy the Van Man is being constantly lauded by the media as a right wing extremist terrorist, because he drove a van into a group of Muslims.
So, does this make the Muslims who drive vans into white people left wing extremists, or alt-right wing extremists? Question

Or maybe this is all part of the media's continual drive to dress up left wing Liberalism as cuddly and good, where anything right of centre is bad? It's got to the stage where the country is being shaped more in the ways of the unelected Liberals and Labour, than by the elected government.
Presidents Club, Pit girls, Brexit is bad, anti Trump, not enough refugees, BBC men taking a pay cut to drag them down to the level of a woman and not to forget the clear social engineering program of gross over representation of ethnic minorities across TV and radio adverts, plus BBC recruitment "blacks only, no white may apply" job adverts.

We seem to have reached a stage where the country is shaped and ran by the media, not the government. If Snowflake doesn't like a decision, they push the agenda to such a level in the media that the government either backs it or reverses a decision.
It seems the left have majority control of the media as a whole, even when not in charge. The majority of comedy now, especially on the BBC, is unwatchable unless you just want to sit through half an hour of left wing propaganda.

If Corbyn gets in, how long before state ran media, like all the other far left countries?
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 02 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 10:44 - 02 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does your mother know you do this kind of stuff?
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 02 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 11:21 - 02 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm using the term "media" as a broad one. Facebook or whatever else the students are using to organise their lefty hissy fit protests and organised vote rigging, are clearly very effective.
Even Corbyn being worshipped on stage at Glastonbury is another example of media propaganda. It was there to grab media attention.
Ironically, if they get their way and turn us into a socialist dictatorship, free media will be a thing of the past.

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PostPosted: 12:05 - 02 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know this is to be expected but some time last year the old beeb ran a program on radio 4 highlighting and discussing the dangers of extremism in the UK and threat to the public...

It was exclusively focused on young white males and their 'association' with far right groups.

So who gives a fuck about real terrorists really killing people on a relatively regular basis when we can highlight and educate the masses about a couple of (white) right wing fantasists cobbing off on the thought of attacking a few brownies?

Literally almost crashed every time it came on I was so triggered?


There is something disturbingly grotesque about the thought processes and how they are being allowed to disillusion people.

Makes me sick. Australia is definitely an option once my parents pass. Fuck these morons, hopefully history will look back and laugh at the lunacy... unless the whole west ends up going full Zimbabwe a 100 years from now or so Shocked
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 02 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not state run.

The old dinosaur media is being taken over by Youtube, Faceberg and Twatter as the sources of social control.

These entities are not run by any state, they are globalist corporates, that seek to control any pushback against the cultural marxist norm.

All of the Western "democracies" are in the same boat, whether that's USA/Canada, W Europe or Australia. The countries in Eastern Europe are an exception for now, but we'll see if they can hold out in the long term as their youth get seduced by iphones and consumer crap.

You miss out on the prime force for social control, the breeding ground to churn out compliant drones that will bleat the mantra against the -ism or "phobia" of the day, and that is the educational institutions. Children are forced to endure 8 hours a day of propaganda crap from nursery until they leave. The left is firmly in control of education and pushes it's agenda wherever possible.
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 02 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Makes me sick. Australia is definitely an option once my parents pass. Fuck these morons, hopefully history will look back and laugh at the lunacy... unless the whole west ends up going full Zimbabwe a 100 years from now or so Shocked


4 generations sounds about right. It will collapse. It's inevitable. All civilizations in history have gone through the phase of Growth->Fruition->Stagnation->Destruction and ours is no different. We are firmly in the stagnation stage. We're seeing the breakdown of social roles and the decline of birth rates across the West. Groups like MGTOW are growing. Every form of social outlier is being normalised and praised. This negative trend and social breakdown does not look likely to be reversed. At some point the whole edifice will become non-viable and the result will be inevitable.

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PostPosted: 12:54 - 02 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You miss out on the prime force for social control, the breeding ground to churn out compliant drones that will bleat the mantra against the -ism or "phobia" of the day, and that is the educational institutions. Children are forced to endure 8 hours a day of propaganda crap from nursery until they leave. The left is firmly in control of education and pushes it's agenda wherever possible.


Good point and a growing issue as far as I can see, what with Canterbury, Cambridge and a few other University Cities, falling to Labour with rumours of "double voting" student campaigns doing the rounds on social media.

If the left have control of media and education, the results are inevitable.

Whilst I understand change is inevitable, the speed of social engineering over the last few years is spiralling well out of control now. "Political correctness gone mad" really does exist now and is in control.
We've now gone beyond racial equality and actively promote racial discrimination against white people. WTF is wrong with modern society?
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 02 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

bnp72 are you arguing that white people who drive vans into pedestrians are somehow made to appear worse than they actually are by a left wing media, and that people of differing skin tone are made to appear as comparatively better human beings by the same token?
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 02 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bnp72 are you arguing that white people who drive vans into pedestrians are somehow made to appear worse than they actually are by a left wing media, and that people of differing skin tone are made to appear as comparatively better human beings by the same token?


No, I'm arguing that the left leaning media are using it as a tag. as yet another example of how it's trying to brainwash the public into thinking right is wrong and left is good. Mkay..

We don't hear much about left wing extremists on the news. Do they not exist then, or are we not allowed to taint the left side of politics in the same way as it's cool to diss right of centre politics nowadays? Most stand up/panel show Comedy on TV has long since stopped being funny and turned into anti right political propaganda.

I didn't think it was that hard to understand?

Taff Van Man targeted these people because of their religion, not their political persuasion, so why is he right wing?
Are we to assume that those who dislike Muslims are all right wing, so people who target them in this way are extreme right?
OK fine, but knowing that the vast majority of Muslims, especially those who dislike whitey, are way more likely to vote left wing, then using the same set of rules, all Islamic extremists targeting white infidels are extreme left wing.

You can't have it both ways to suit lefties.
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 02 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

The far right are far more likely to be 'Extreme.' It's nothing to do with the media, its a fact.

I can't think of any Left Wingers that have killed for a cause in the UK.

The only one in europe that springs to mind is the RAF in germany.

The Bloke drove a van into a crowd of people because of their religion. He had been spouting off loads of Racist stuff on twitter. Therefore right wing.


The reason you don't get left wing extremism in the same force is because generally left wingers are 'softer'. What I mean by there is I would say they are more likely to be university educated, less likely to do a manual/hands on job. Put bluntly more likely to lose a punchup. I would also say more women are left wing.

Right wing people I would say are more likely to be more authoritarian, more like to be things like Fireman/Police/Army etc. In short people more likely to take act with action rather than words.

Obviously the above is a HUGE generalisation but to me that is what the right is more violent, than the left.

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PostPosted: 15:42 - 02 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:

Taff Van Man targeted these people because of their religion, not their political persuasion, so why is he right wing?
Are we to assume that those who dislike Muslims are all right wing, so people who target them in this way are extreme right?


Racism is traditionally right wing, as it goes hand in hand with Nationalism.

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OK fine, but knowing that the vast majority of Muslims, especially those who dislike whitey, are way more likely to vote left wing, then using the same set of rules, all Islamic extremists targeting white infidels are extreme left wing.


Nope Right wing still. As it is exactly the same thing.


Heavily flawed statement below but it should give you an idea.

If you lived in Saudi, would you be left wing? No, but you would vote left, because it would be better for you.
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 02 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The far right are far more likely to be 'Extreme.' It's nothing to do with the media, its a fact.


Where is this fact? Can we see it, or is it in your opinion as a devout lefty?
Kim Jong Un is pretty far left. Are you saying his politics are not extreme then? On which planet is this?

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I can't think of any Left Wingers that have killed for a cause in the UK.


Wow! You think all the Muslim terrorists were Tories?


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Simple test to prove it


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PostPosted: 15:51 - 02 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Racism is traditionally right wing, as it goes hand in hand with Nationalism.


And what race is Islam again?


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Nope Right wing still. As it is exactly the same thing.


Ah so when voting they're left wing, but when doing anything bad, they're suddenly right wing. Thank you, my point exactly about Taff Van Man.


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If you lived in Saudi, would you be left wing? No, but you would vote left, because it would be better for you.


If there was a vote, which there isn't, so it's irrelevant.
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 02 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

By extreme I meant within the environment or which is it based. It is pointless discussing this on a global scale, for every North Korea there is a Saudi Arabia.

Which side of this to you think ISIS fall on?

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The reason why is in the definitions of Left Wing and Right Wing, which I am sure you have read so won't bore you with them here, but in brief the current definition has the 'left' as more liberal and egalitarian, and the 'Right' as more authoritarian and nationalistic.

What this means therefore is that persons carrying out offences against people of other colour, religion, nationality etc are more likely to fall into the definition of 'Right' than 'Left'.

Ergo it stands to reason that acts of terrorism of the kind undertaken by 'Dave' the white van man are seen as 'Right'. Likewise it stands to reason that acts committed in the name of 'freedom' could be termed 'Left' depending upon the particular terrorist's view on neo-classical economics.

As for our beloved media 'tainting' left-wing politics, one only has to look at the abuse Mr Corbin got (and still gets to a degree) when he became leader of the Labour Party, to see that abuse of public figures in this country isn't reserved for right-wing politicians.

If the BBC has a bias it isn't against the Left or the Right imo. The agenda runs much deeper than that....

bnp72 I fail to see your argument.
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 02 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As for our beloved media 'tainting' left-wing politics, one only has to look at the abuse Mr Corbin got (and still gets to a degree) when he became leader of the Labour Party, to see that abuse of public figures in this country isn't reserved for right-wing politicians.


For those with short or selective memories, let us not forget all those, jeering, "right wing" types who stumped up cash to join the Labour party to specifically make the "unelectable" Corbyn leader!
Funny how things can bite you in the arse!
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PostPosted: 16:14 - 02 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Which side of this to you think ISIS fall on?


The Muslim side.

Sorry, why am I supposed to see that graphic as valid when it's from a Liberal organisation, discussing Croatian political slant?

I don't understand the relevance.
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 02 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Which side of this to you think ISIS fall on?


The Muslim side.

Sorry, why am I supposed to see that graphic as valid when it's from a Liberal organisation, discussing Croatian political slant?

I don't understand the relevance.


What do you define as right and left wing characteristics then?
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 02 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The reason why is in the definitions of Left Wing and Right Wing, which I am sure you have read so won't bore you with them here, but in brief the current definition has the 'left' as more liberal and egalitarian, and the 'Right' as more authoritarian and nationalistic.


According to who, the left or the right? It's a matter of perspective and you're looking at it from the left.

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What this means therefore is that persons carrying out offences against people of other colour, religion, nationality etc are more likely to fall into the definition of 'Right' than 'Left'.


Cool, so why aren't people who carry out offences against non Muslims also tagged as "extreme right wing"? Why does it only get used on whitey?

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Ergo it stands to reason that acts of terrorism of the kind undertaken by 'Dave' the white van man are seen as 'Right'. Likewise it stands to reason that acts committed in the name of 'freedom' could be termed 'Left' depending upon the particular terrorist's view on neo-classical economics.


Or you could see that, as it is, the view of a lefty. White man = bad. Muslim = "freedom fighter".

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As for our beloved media 'tainting' left-wing politics, one only has to look at the abuse Mr Corbin got (and still gets to a degree) when he became leader of the Labour Party, to see that abuse of public figures in this country isn't reserved for right-wing politicians.

If the BBC has a bias it isn't against the Left or the Right imo. The agenda runs much deeper than that....


Cobblers. Most of that abuse was from the left who saw Corbyn as too far left. This included the BBC.

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As an out and out lefty Doggs, I wouldn't expect you to.
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For those with short or selective memories, let us not forget all those, jeering, "right wing" types who stumped up cash to join the Labour party to specifically make the "unelectable" Corbyn leader!
Funny how things can bite you in the arse!


I wonder how many actually did this and even if so, how it actually bit anyone in the arse?
Corbyn hasn't been elected, he lost the general election, although you wouldn't know listening to some of the Corbynista socialists prattling on.

Many still seem to think he's too extreme left to get enough votes to win in a real election, not a biased "survey".
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What do you define as right and left wing characteristics then?


From the other side of the fence, I see modern left wingers as self loathing, snowflakes riddled with some kind of programmed in guilt and far detached from reality.
I see them as hell bent on ruining down the country I live in, by making indigenous folk second class citizens. I see many as living in a fantasy dream world where money grows on trees and we can hand out our limited resources to the entire planet with no ill effect on our quality of life.
Oh and if they believe in something, everyone else has to bow down to their minority wishes whether they want to or not. Think Presidents Club, grid girls, BBC pay etc... Removing 20M from charity, removing a cushy little earner from 100 plus hostesses, throwing hundreds of girls on the dole and forcing men to take a pay cut is seen as a moral victory. None on this makes any effect on the lefty whingers, but it has a chronic effect on those they are supposed to be helping.
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 02 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What do you define as right and left wing characteristics then?


From the other side of the fence, I see modern left wingers are self loathing, snowflakes riddled with some kind of programmed in guilt and far detached from reality.
I see them as hell bent on ruining down the country I live in, by making indigenous folk second class citizens. I see many as living in a fantasy dream world where money grows on trees and we can hand out our limited resources to the entire planet with no ill effect on our quality of life.
Oh and if they believe in something, everyone else has to bow down to their minority wishes whether they want to or not. Think Presidents Club, grid girls, BBC pay etc... Removing 20M from charity, removing a cushy little earner from 100 plus hostesses, throwing hundreds of girls on the dole and forcing men to take a pay cut is seen as a moral victory. None on this makes any effect on the lefty whingers, but it has a chronic effect on those they are supposed to be helping.


Sounds like ISIS doesn't it. Laughing
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From the other side of the fence, I see modern left wingers are self loathing, snowflakes riddled with some kind of programmed in guilt and far detached from reality.
I see them as hell bent on ruining down the country I live in, by making indigenous folk second class citizens. I see many as living in a fantasy dream world where money grows on trees and we can hand out our limited resources to the entire planet with no ill effect on our quality of life.
Oh and if they believe in something, everyone else has to bow down to their minority wishes whether they want to or not. Think Presidents Club, grid girls, BBC pay etc... Removing 20M from charity, removing a cushy little earner from 100 plus hostesses, throwing hundreds of girls on the dole and forcing men to take a pay cut is seen as a moral victory. None on this makes any effect on the lefty whingers, but it has a chronic effect on those they are supposed to be helping.


Sounds like ISIS doesn't it. Laughing


The similarities are certainly there. All the latest Snowflake nonsense is making this country more compatible with Islam.
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