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andym World Chat Champion
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Posted: 17:06 - 05 Feb 2018 Post subject: Are some MOT testers just c**ts? |
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Today I took the ninja for it's 3rd MOT since I've owned it, first one I had to buy a new rear tyre (fair enough), last one I got an advisory on the front discs being slightly worn (should have got one for the fuel tank being loose, but that was sorted with a washer).... today it failed at the only MOT station that's failed my VFR on imaginary problems (warped front discs, but it's passed at 2 other MOT stations with not so much as a word about them and front calipers binding**).
The fail list:
Throttle operating incorrectly (sticking) *dangerous* (the throttle has always been like this, and passed twice previously, but I stripped everything down, greased everything up and it was still sticking.... turns out the bar just needed a clean, or could have been sorted with a quick spray of WD40)
Rear wheel bearings have excessive free play (he thinks it's the one on the left hand side but best to have them all replaced... I asked how much they would be to replace.... "£40+VAT+labo".... "I'll get them online thanks", checked the rear wheel when I got home and didn't notice any movement)
Drive chain excessively loose (OK so the chain was slack, but I wouldn't have thought it was a fail )
Also advisories on the rear disc being worn, (in only 1500 miles since the last MOT too), and rear tyre being close to legal limit (which I knew anyway)
** Previously I've taken my VFR there for it's MOT and the brake test that I was shown was to lift the front of the bike, turn the wheel, then pull the lever to the handlebar with more force than would ever be used to stop and if the wheel didn't turn as quickly then the brakes were binding |
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toby1 Scooby Slapper
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Posted: 17:43 - 05 Feb 2018 Post subject: |
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Mine failed on 'supposed' as in not really corroded tyre valves ffs |
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Posted: 17:51 - 05 Feb 2018 Post subject: |
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I thought everyone had a friendly bike MOT guy. I've yet to find one that isn't |
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Posted: 17:59 - 05 Feb 2018 Post subject: |
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if the VFR was failed for (what sounds like) a dodgy brake test then why did you go back there?
brake test is on rollers unless a very old set up, in which case a butchers scales and winch on the wall does the job of testing brake force. ____________________ Looking to pass your CBT / Bike tests in Bury Lancashire? try www.focusridertraining.co.uk Would recommend.
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chris-red Have you considered a TDM?
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So. You've listed three fail points. Two of which you admit he was correct (albeit pedantic) about.
So the only thing you're actually arguing about is if the wheel bearing is duff. So. Maybe worth a check to see if he's got 3/3?
Advisories don't matter a damn. Maybe worth measuring your disc?
Remember, if they don't fail enough vehicles, VOSA get all mystery shopper on them. They've even parked round the corner from my local tester, stopped bikes coming out after an MOT and brought them back to inspect. He got hauled up on one "trick" bike they put in for an MOT. It should have failed on a missing o-ring inside the filler cap and slightly off headlamp aim.
So it's actually VOSA that are the cunts.
My local guy likes it when I leave a bike with him, he can fail it on something minor (headlamp aim is a classic), "fix" it then pass it again a couple of hours later. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Posted: 19:28 - 05 Feb 2018 Post subject: |
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M.C wrote: | I thought everyone had a friendly bike MOT guy. I've yet to find one that isn't |
I called to book the Nazi Tractor in today and he pegged me as the chap with the Enfield. That's the sort of place you want. PM for info, DVSA Derek has ears everywhere.
Fin wrote: | How clean was your bike? Shouldn't make a difference but it does. |
... and despite knowing that the BMW is my winter bitch, I've promised to give it its annual rinse down (and might even do so).
stinkwheel wrote: | My local guy likes it when I leave a bike with him, he can fail it on something minor (headlamp aim is a classic), "fix" it then pass it again a couple of hours later. |
Now that you mention it, they did check its headlight alignment, once. It's easy adjustable by hand, so I reckon I'll ask if they want it failable. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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MarJay But it's British!
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Posted: 23:24 - 05 Feb 2018 Post subject: Are some MOT customers just C**ts? |
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MOTTesterBob wrote: | The life of an MOT tester is difficult. If it's not for the DVSA coming after you, it's the fact that you get paid jack all for doing essential safety checks. I'm not strict, but I don't compromise when it comes to safety.
So I had this guy come in for an MOT today. He seemed like a nice chap but you can tell he does all his own maintenance. I ignored loads of issues with his bike including a lack of rear reflector, but as I said, I'm strict on safety. I found that his throttle was sticking, the rear wheel bearings were worn, and his chain was slack. I might have let the chain go, but it was clear there were other safety concerns, so I couldn't let him get away with it. When I issued the fail, he started arguing the toss and saying I was being too strict. A rear wheel bearing collapse is not funny, and could be a danger to other road users, not just the rider of the bike. Similarly with a sticky throttle. All it would have taken is a bit of grease under the twist grip and maybe some oil on the cables, but he still argued. I can understand him not noticing the wheel bearings, but the slack chain was not acceptable. I even offered to sell him the bearings at cost plus labour, but he thought I was trying to rip him off! Imagine if he was a DVSA inspector, I'd have my license revoked and I'd be down the job centre faster than you can say 'public liability'.
It's a shame really, because I'd like to let Darwin decide for these people, but at the end of the day their safety is my responsibility, and I don't want someones death or injury on my conscience, not to mention losing my job.
I might get out of the MOT game, it's just too much hassle.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 74 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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