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colinl
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 07 Feb 2018    Post subject: Heads-up display for helmets Reply with quote

I'm an electrical engineering grad, and I'm a relatively new rider (been riding about three years). In my spare time, I put together a heads-up display for my own personal use. By chance, I took the helmet with me to a motorcycle show last month, and a few people I met said I ought to think about selling it.

I only have one, so I'm not actually selling it, but I thought I'd share it with the community to get some thoughts on it.

https://imgur.com/6viWKm2.png

https://imgur.com/qsYX4Im.png

The eyepiece displays text in your field-of-view, so you can always keep your eyes on the road. It’ll display your speed, or basic GPS navigation, or both. It looks like this from the inside of the helmet:

https://i.imgur.com/6H43EUn.png

All of the pieces are adjustable and they fit inside any helmet, so you can keep wearing the helmet that you know and like.

It works during the day, at night, and in the rain. All weather, all conditions.

As you can see, there is no frontal aerodynamic impact, because all of the pieces are tucked inside the helmet:

https://imgur.com/f4MToZh.png

https://imgur.com/nbgMqOe.png

As far as safety is concerned, the eyepiece is made out of shatterproof glass, so even in the unlikely event that it breaks, it will hold together, just like a car windshield.

The pieces are stuck inside the helmet with an incredibly strong adhesive. Once placed, the pieces are damn near impossible to remove. You can try to yank them out, hard, and they won't budge.

Altogether, it costs $135 to make.

So, what do you guys think? Do you see yourself buying one of these, if it were available?
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 07 Feb 2018    Post subject: Re: Heads-up display for helmets Reply with quote

colinl wrote:


It looks remarkably like it does a good job of blocking your peripheral vision (LHS - the sender) so I'm ooot....
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 07 Feb 2018    Post subject: Re: Heads-up display for helmets Reply with quote

colinl wrote:
The pieces are stuck inside the helmet with an incredibly strong adhesive. Once placed, the pieces are damn near impossible to remove. You can try to yank them out, hard, and they won't budge.

We know all about that as trucks are made from tape these days. Thumbs Up

Photos of it with GPS navigation displayed?

Bluetooth controller for the display?
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 07 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

The instruments in my dash tell me how fast I am traveling.

It will cost £££ not that I would buy one even if it cost ££.

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PostPosted: 22:38 - 07 Feb 2018    Post subject: Re: Heads-up display for helmets Reply with quote

HUD's have been around for well over a decade now.
13 years ago, for instance - https://www.southbayriders.com/forums/threads/17184/

Periodically 'concepts' reappear. A few people get excited.
Then they fizzle out.

I'm sure someone will "Apple" it and make them popular at some point.
Alas Apple typically does it by throwing shed loads of money at the marketing and product.
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 07 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quite like it, would try maybe. Price would need to come down.
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 07 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you kickstarted the keep it all kickstarter yet?
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 07 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would probably work well if paired with a Rainpal.
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 07 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
I quite like it, would try maybe. Price would need to come down.

Guaranteed it will end up in the shit draw with all the other shit you buy but don't really need within twelve months.

I bought an inforad speed cam detector for my Fazer about 3 years ago it went in the shit draw before it ever got fitted.
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 07 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite neat and clever but I just don't see the need unless you're Patrick Moore on an S1000RR looking to complete the look. I think you'd sell a handful.
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 07 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll stick to something a bit more in keeping with the Enfield.

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PostPosted: 23:24 - 07 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations on actually making something rather than just coming up with an idea.

This probably isn't the best forum to ask on, as we're (by and large) penny pinching hidebound curmudgeons. S1000RR is an insightful shout, this is a question for marque, bike, or "adventure" riding specific forums.
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 08 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just been trying to think of a use for it, the only thing I've come up with is a satnav display but even then - a quick glance down at the satnav isn't that bothersome.

Text and social media notifications is a definite no no.

Can't come up with a use case.. Thinking
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PostPosted: 00:36 - 08 Feb 2018    Post subject: Re: Heads-up display for helmets Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Photos of it with GPS navigation displayed?


This would probably be it's most useful function, for myself anyway.

Also, a speed camera detector would be beneficial. Thumbs Up

As Rod said, well done for actually putting it together, rather than just touting an idea. Price would need to come down a bit though.
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PostPosted: 02:08 - 08 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it looks quite good and possibly I wouldn't find it intrusive.

As above, would like to see the GPS display as I do find myself looking down at the satnav display at regular intervals and it's not in my sightline.

My problem is when on the Trophy I hardly ever have my visor down as I ride with glasses on and the wind protection is so good. Could you put it on screen on a touring bike?
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 08 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at the photographs, the projector is mounted one one side and the screen on the other.
The major problem I see is that when in use, there will be a head in the way blocking the projection. For it to miss the face, it needs to be so far forward that, even if skipping a few MM past the eyes and assuming nobody wears glasses, it will block peripheral view.

This hasn't been tried in the real world yet has it?
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 08 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure you've already got a name for it, but for 1% of future royalties you could use my suggestion.






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PostPosted: 12:08 - 08 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd pay $82 if it worked well and was guaranteed for 2 years. It's not something I actually need, but it might be one of those things that is good when you get it and then you wonder why you didn't get one before.

Have you tested in in cold and rainy conditions? How does it cope with conditions that normally fog up the inside of a visor (i.e. 1o months of the year in the UK)?

If you can't keep the cost down then it may only appeal to sunny Sunday riders as a gadget. For wider use I think it's only going to help those who have older bikes where the speedo display is poor.
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 08 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could always project it onto something outside of the visor.

Years ago a guy called Kev used a dental mirror on his helmet instead of rear mirrors and you could project it onto that instead on the outside.
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 08 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see from here that your visor would fail UK light transmission tests.

Primary eye protection must alow a minimum 50% light transmission to comply with UK law.
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 08 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it could project texts when they came into your phone I bet it would sell like hot cakes. There are people who would pay for that however much it should be a no no.

What is the range of the projector? You have it inside a helmet but wouldn't you make more if you can set it up for a car windscreen as well.

As I said earlier, being a poser I wouldn't mind fitting it on the screen of my Trophy but the screen is electric and alters the position so I presume it wouldn't work on that.

It cost $135 to make, Is that actually dollars or pounds? Whichever, I presume that would amount to £200+ when you add in full retail costs. Not a huge amount but I also presume you would need a compatible bluetooth sat nav to power it?
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 08 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would find this useful with bluetooth and sat nav but as I wear glasses the focal range may be a problem. Damn good idea though.
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 08 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the idea of a HUD that isn't an integral part of a very expensive helmet but not so keen on the idea of the bits bouncing around my face during a crash.
Oh and thanks for sharing something that actuality exists rather than the usual request for help with your homework.
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 08 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I can see from here that your visor would fail UK light transmission tests.

Primary eye protection must alow a minimum 50% light transmission to comply with UK law.

Yet popo don't seem to care. Wasn't the Skully AR helmet the same sort of idea (but a lot more expensive)?
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 08 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I can see from here that your visor would fail UK light transmission tests.

Primary eye protection must alow a minimum 50% light transmission to comply with UK law.


Dunno, iridium Wub is deceptive. You can see through the visor in pic 1 clear enough.

Truck tape suggests it's not interchangeable.
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