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AshWebster
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Chain Monkey Reply with quote
Just saw it on Dragons' Den. Seems a bit OTT really?

Thoughts?
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Monkeywrenche...
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bogeyman wrote:
POS.

I know if my chain needs adjustment which is almost never (i have a scottoiler) just by feel when riding the bike or just by looking at it.


I don't get your point, It's for chain adjustment not telling you if it needs doing.
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Rob Fzs
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
seems pointless to me, if you can work out how to use that, why cant you work out how to tighten a chain the old fashioned way
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Monkeywrenche...
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rob Fzs wrote:
seems pointless to me, if you can work out how to use that, why cant you work out how to tighten a chain the old fashioned way


Ok I've looked at it, I struggle to see the stage of the process that this makes quicker/easier. Anyone?

Also LOL at him and the turkish guy planning to use it for bicycles, only fixed gear bicycles would be able to use it surely? and do any of those need this much accuracy in the chain tension?
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sounds like Rainpal will have a potential Joint Venture with Chain Monkey.

To much precision for something that doesn't really (Phuquing Phone Spelbot.) need to be so precise.

And correctly adjust chain is after you find the tightest section/run.
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Monkeywrencher wrote:

Also LOL at him and the turkish guy planning to use it for bicycles, only fixed gear bicycles would be able to use it surely? and do any of those need this much accuracy in the chain tension?


Fixed gear/single speed/hub gear push bikes want pretty much no slack at all at the tightest point of the chain.

Other push bikes have deralieurs or some other chain tensioning device.
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Rogerborg
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
Hang on, that trinket appears to introduce an absolute amount of slack dependent only on the vertical movement specified in the manual.

How does that take into account the length of the chain? Not the pitch, the distance between sprockets.

25mm of vertical movement in a short chain needs more slack than 25mm movement in a long one. But that gadget will give you the same amount of slack for either one.

Seems a bit 5-quarter-turns-in-a-circle.

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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
It would be good for wheelbuilding. It's effectively a deflection tensiometer. An inaccurate but very cheap one.
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
He got backing from the Den i dont know why - its not an ingenious invention or an actual problem....
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Commuter_Tim
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
AshWebster wrote:
He got backing from the Den i dont know why - its not an ingenious invention or an actual problem....


Have they actually banked that cheque though?
There have been plenty of people the dragons agreed to invest in provisionally, and then backed out after they find out the product is shit.
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Hawkeye1250FA
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
citation needed....

Also who the fuck needs help knowing how tight the chain needs to be?!?

You've already done the "hard bit"

Undone all the correct nuts
Chained bike to lamppost
Retrieved it from breakers yard

But in all seriousness, does it not solve a non-existent problem? Although credit to them - it is an ACTUAL product. Not like the latest evolution of rainpal made from unicorn scrotums ....
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Ed Case
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've managed for over 50 years without one of these contraptions...pointless. You don't need one, use your common-sense....it works fine !.
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Kentol750
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 14 Feb 2018    Post subject: What? Reply with quote
All very good if you match it with his £9gazillion squid wheel alignment tool. More a deal for monkey spunk chain lube. If he had real acumen he'd have gone with Deborah and the squeezy lube idea!
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PostPosted: 17:06 - 15 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Monkeywrencher wrote:


Also LOL at him and the turkish guy planning to use it for bicycles, only fixed gear bicycles would be able to use it surely? and do any of those need this much accuracy in the chain tension?


more pointless than spokey-dokeys

you stick the wheel in, give it a spin, if the chain is slack, pull the back wheel back a bit more, done.

It's a fit and forget is a pushbike chain, you'll have the wheel out for a puncture or tyre replacement before you wear the chain out.

anything with deraliur gears it's irrelevant
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 16 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
stinkwheel wrote:
Monkeywrencher wrote:

Also LOL at him and the turkish guy planning to use it for bicycles, only fixed gear bicycles would be able to use it surely? and do any of those need this much accuracy in the chain tension?


Fixed gear/single speed/hub gear push bikes want pretty much no slack at all at the tightest point of the chain.

Other push bikes have deralieurs or some other chain tensioning device.


Yes this. Silly dragon invested because of the potential bicycle market without realising how a bicycle really works.

They've been around for a while. A solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
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el_oso
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 17 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
potential in the bicycle market?!? lol

Dragon must know that hipsters will buy this shit.

Doesn't exactly make adjusting the chain any easier. The hardest part is making sure the alignment is good.
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 17 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just googled this... you can't be serious, £25 for something no one really needs....
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