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PostPosted: 12:41 - 23 Feb 2018    Post subject: Which 60+mpg car? Reply with quote

The little 1.2 corsa i was driving got scrapped. Old, faded and in need of some MOT work it went to the scrappy because A, the work would cost too much, B, it was shit..

So now i am driving my other halfs mx5. It isn't very economical on the journey i do, mainly motorway with about 5 miles of town either side of my ~110 mile a day journey. I have worked it out at about 30mpg..not horrendous, but not great either.

Ideally i want double that because its costing me A LOT to get to work right now.

What CHEAP car is going to get me 60+ mpg and be reliable enough to likely not need any major things doing within the next 12 months.

Please help!.
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 23 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Renault clio 1.5 dci



kia rio 1.5crdi
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 23 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Clio sounds decent..other than being a clio. 30 a year for tax..is what I pay monthly on the mx5.
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 23 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

pompousporcupine wrote:
The Clio sounds decent..other than being a clio. 30 a year for tax..is what I pay monthly on the mx5.


same on the kia


wife loves hers I hate it I would rather drive my 1.25 ford fiesta about

but it wont do less then 50mpg where ever it seems to be driven and by whoever drives it

her has all the toys on but can pick up decentish ones cheap
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 23 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 1 series 118D does about that. Budget in for indicators though..
get that in before someone else

I regularly get over 50 out of it and with that many motorway miles I would say high 50s.
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 23 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suzuki Swift diesel?
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 23 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your £30 tax becomes £110? in March. Fiat panda 1.3 diesel is the same.
A mate has a Nissan Note 1.5 diesel which will be £30 AFTER March.
Remember you can use autotrader to buy by tax rate.
Mine goes up to £310 after the change Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 23 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh yes, i'd forgotten about the tax increase.. meh. I am used to paying this much for car tax.. i put it along side the insurance cost and write it off.

fuel however, is crippling considering the miles i do. Just worked it out at about £136 per month saved if i went with a little clio 1.5 vs the 1.8 mx5.. and thats conservative maths at 50odd mpg.. anything better would be a bonus.

Has anybody owned a 1.5cdi clio? My experience with a Renault megane didnt end well for the car.
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 23 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loui5D wrote:
Suzuki Swift diesel?


surprisingly expensive for what they are.

All these little hatches are tempting.. they all have pros/cons but i keep thinking that anything within my budget is going to be a shitter thats going to cost me.. like a turbo for instance.

i fear a 1.7 lupo diesel is going to be an option Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 23 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a 1.5 dci Kangoo, same engine more or less. Although it had a cambelt snap but that could happen to any car using
the toothed belt system. Although that was an expensive fix, apart from that it never let me down once. Wazzed along at
about 90 flat out, but preferred 80. Cheap as chips fuel wise. My suggestion is Fabia vRS mark one or a Polo TDI (130bhp)
My mate has a tuned one with about 220bhp and still gets MPG in the 50's, he's probably had it about 8 years now.
No DPF on VAG cars from that era(>2007 approx), just the DMF which is an expensive job if it needs done.
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 23 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Renault Twingo. Ours costs pennies to buy, to run, to tax and insure.

Petrol, 1.2 litre. Less power than a budgies fart. More boring than John Major but did I say cheap. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 23 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smart fortwo ?
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 23 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twingo looks fun..and 50mpg.. what do you get in the real world?

Chatted to the other half and she said sell the mx5(we have two kids so she can't use it most of the time anyway)
She said buy a more family friendly car..my first thought was skoda fabia diesel -_- boring and slow but good economy for what I need it for.

Anyone have one?
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 23 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

family friendly car,

the 2nd generation 1.4 diesel Kia Cee'd Estate is a brilliant car - unless the air intake pipe is not clipped in place correctly and wears through the wiring loom frying bits of the car's electrics elsewhere that RRG Bury couldn't fix.

used to get 52mpg out of ours on a run from Manchester to Leeds and back, bit lower for general driving.

I would actually have another, just not from that dealership and would check the air intake pipe doesn't touch the wiring loom after it's been in a garage.
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 23 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

piazza wrote:
Your £30 tax becomes £110? in March. Fiat panda 1.3 diesel is the same.
A mate has a Nissan Note 1.5 diesel which will be £30 AFTER March.
Remember you can use autotrader to buy by tax rate.
Mine goes up to £310 after the change Laughing


OP is looking for cheap cars. That tends to ssay a pre march 2017 reg. They do not get any dearer.

A lot of people seen to think ALL RFT is going up. It's not...
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 23 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

pompousporcupine wrote:
my first thought was skoda fabia diesel -_- boring and slow but good economy for what I need it for.

Anyone have one?


I had two of them. The SDI which was non turbo and returned between 60 and 80mpg pretty much no matter how
hard you drove it. And then I had the vRS which has basically the same engine but with added turbo and the pumpe
duse high pressure fuel injection system. Bought my vRS in a private sale for 4.5k and sold it on 4 years later for 3.5k.
Got another 700 odd quid selling the aftermarket stuff that I was able to remove before sale. Remapped mine was running
about 180 odd bhp and it was far from slow and boring. It pulled really hard and was VERY strong as a motorway car.

The SDI was pretty dull though and I PXed it against a dealer bought Fiat 500 for 1200 quid. But it was mechanically
as reliable as any vehicle we've ever owned. In 50k miles it had a new clutch (which went in quite soon after purchase)
£300 all in fitted and a new battery for 70 odd quid at the 3 year point. Otherwise just the tyres needed renewing
(with cheapo linglongs) once and a quarter light replacing (£70 odd) after a break in. All in maybe 600 quid spent on
it in all the time we had it. Wife had a 50 mile each way commute from Romford to Surrey back then and it never
missed a beat in hundreds of hours of M25 punishment. PXed because long story short the MiL managed to damage more
or less every panel because she was driving round nursing a couple of brain tumours, as you do.

Bad points -

They eat console bushes but you can upgrade these to harder, solid ones which tighten up the handling a bit.

Clutch/DMF replacement (TDIs only) is not cheap and poor driving technique can accelerate their demise.

The doors leak which can lead to wet carpets and rotting smell. Can be fixed for a few quids with a tube of plumbers
gold and some new doorcard clips.

Not especially quiet cars, SDI has a smf so they sound especially agricultural, but I'd have a SDI engine fitted in
a van in a heartbeat given the choice.

My vRS understeered like a bugger, but I fitted an aftermarker rear anti roll bar which made a night and day difference.
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 23 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polo/Ibiza/Fabia with the 1.2 3 cylinder diesel, with at least 75HP, runs on fumes, and nippy enough for the cut and thrust.
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 23 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

andyscooter wrote:


wife loves hers I hate it I would rather drive my 1.25 ford fiesta about

Out of curiosity what do you get out of your fiesta mpg wise? i struggle to get 40mpg when trying and get about 30-35 driving normal.
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 23 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danke Mr grr666. Good info there. It was the sdi I was looking at earlier. Agricultural I can deal with as that sort of economy would save a lot.

I have bikes if I wanna go fast
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 23 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should mention there are also estate style Fabias as well as the more typical hatch or very rare saloon style.
Better for buggies and kids stuff. That said.

I would..
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 24 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

rhys99 wrote:
andyscooter wrote:


wife loves hers I hate it I would rather drive my 1.25 ford fiesta about

Out of curiosity what do you get out of your fiesta mpg wise? i struggle to get 40mpg when trying and get about 30-35 driving normal.


No idea to be fair I just stick fuel in and drive

Only does about three miles most weeks with a few more at weekends if I have daughter with me
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 24 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

pompousporcupine wrote:
Twingo looks fun..and 50mpg.. what do you get in the real world?


It really is so good I don't bother checking. Fill the tank for about £40 and forget about it for a month. Ours is just used as a city car running around MK for which it is ideal.

Family car it is not though.
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 24 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Fabia Vrs 1.9TDI is fab, would definitely recommend. Even as standard it doesn't feel particularly slow, but I am tempted to re-map it. Typical MPG is about 45-55. Can get cheap £30 tyres too which is a bonus.
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 24 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ve got a job one day a week in Manchester at the moment. It’s a 360 mile round trip from Newcastle, but they’re paying well and giving me 45p a mile. I’m driving it in a 2006 diesel fiat panda, which can manage 80mpg on a good day. About 75 on a bad day.

Driving any car down a motorway at 70 is shit. You might as well make it cheap and shit instead of expensive and shit. All you need is a £75
Bluetooth radio to stop you going insane.
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 24 Feb 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

DRZ4Hunned wrote:
My Fabia Vrs 1.9TDI is fab, would definitely recommend. Even as standard it doesn't feel particularly slow, but I am tempted to re-map it. Typical MPG is about 45-55. Can get cheap £30 tyres too which is a bonus.


Factor in the price of new clutch and DMF. Ask me how I know... Laughing And remap should improve MPG in day to day driving.
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