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chickenstrip
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PostPosted: 11:36 - 29 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stinka wrote:
Next is to service the carbs as it’s rough as fuck low down



Complaints like this normally turn out to be EXUP problems, but you've serviced this, and presumably adjusted the cables as required too. You could also try resetting the TPS, a simple job which I can't remember off the top of my head, but info on it on the Fazer forum.
These bikes are always a little glitchy at low revs when standard. The Ivan's mod sorts this, either version.
Also, try a tankful of Shell V-Power. I've always found these bikes to run a little smoother on it, despite what others may say, although I'm not a stickler for using it all the time - just when a convenient opportunity arises.
But yes, perhaps it just needs a carb service/balance.

I really hate those standard silver rad and frame covers, so had this done on mine:

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Carbon dip. It just looks plain black in most light.
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 29 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers mate, I’ll check all that thanks. And that looks beautiful Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 29 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

One other thing for folks who have just purchased one of these bikes. Underneath one of the fairing liner panels* (again, can't remember which side off the top of my head), there is a large electrical block connector, which sometimes gets dirty, and may eventually start to corrode inside, causing some problems. Worth cleaning this connector up once in a while, bit of contact cleaner should do it nicely, then some sort of suitable grease or treatment to keep it in good nick. Unlikely to be your rough-running problem though, Stinka.

Oh, and make sure you don't over-tension the drive chain when adjusting - common mistake with owners new to these! You should be able to push the bottom of the chain run up till it just touches the black plastic chain 'guide' on the s/arm when adjusted correctly.

*These panels crack easily if you are not careful tightening the screws when refitting. Try fitting some rubber washers underneath. The panels themselves are becoming as rare as rocking horse shit. I would suggest removing them before taking the bike to anyone else to work on - guess how I know this is a good idea? Rolling Eyes They can also cause all kinds of weird noises if the little damping pads around them are in poor condition. Best described as "someone swirling a bucket of nuts and bolts around" Laughing New or extra little foam pads solves it.
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 29 Mar 2019    Post subject: Which one .... Reply with quote

Im thinking of getting one at some point,ive a couple of bikes to finish and sell 1st
All the reviews rate the earlier one as better than the FZ1,although I prefer the newer bike looks wise
Ive been reading the online reviews as the engine being more sports based but smaller tank and hard seat
Is the earlier one actually the best of both ?
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 30 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah gen 1 is the better bike
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PostPosted: 11:39 - 30 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have only had one brief ride on one of the very first FZ1s, unfaired, but my impression is it is focussed more towards the sportier side of things, or at least, has that feel in comparison. The gen 1 I think makes a better all-rounder, although the FZ1 is a perfectly good option for everyday use, from what I read.
The gen 1 has a very loyal following, and people return to them time and again. The FZ1 doesn't seem to have the same kind of pull. Perhaps it is too similar to many other bikes of its, and subsequent, generations? I wouldn't even say the gen 1 has more character - it does everything too well and reliably to be described in that way. It's just a better do-it-all bike, I think. A more complete package...or something Confused
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 30 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

It’s a bit like ... Would you rather have a mk1 escort Mexico or a focus rs
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 30 Mar 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it something to do with carburetted bikes having a more "connected" feel? Less sanitised?
I think the gen 1 will deserve classic status. It's like the last, and maybe the best, of a certain older breed. The FZ1 I'm not so sure about - might just get lost among all the other FI bikes of its generation. For someone who has never ridden anything other than modern FI/digitalised/rider aid bikes, they might not 'get' the gen 1?
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 05 Apr 2019    Post subject: Rs Reply with quote

[quote="Stinka"]It’s a bit like ... Would you rather have a mk1 escort Mexico or a focus


RS1600BDA of course
I thought those orange focus Rs s were reserved for hairdressers
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 08 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone with stock forks shine some light for me?

Preload adjusters in the manual states 7 rings of adjustment, mine was at full preload when I got it, I can back it off to 3.5 rings, but it hits a dead stop and no more, on both of them. Something im missing? Otherwise I will just have to split the forks and see whats been done to them.
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 08 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tdibs wrote:
Can anyone with stock forks shine some light for me?

Preload adjusters in the manual states 7 rings of adjustment, mine was at full preload when I got it, I can back it off to 3.5 rings, but it hits a dead stop and no more, on both of them. Something im missing? Otherwise I will just have to split the forks and see whats been done to them.


Maybe try asking on foc-u, there are plenty on there who have done all sorts to FZS forks.
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 08 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
They can also cause all kinds of weird noises if the little damping pads around them are in poor condition. Best described as "someone swirling a bucket of nuts and bolts around" Laughing New or extra little foam pads solves it.


Yes, 101%!!

Just got back from a quick 75 mile ride up the coast and yet again, this was blighting the enjoyment!

Been a right pain to my ears since I got the bike. Was just wondering if it was worth taping on some wadding, like someone at FOCU said they'd done.
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 08 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wyberton John wrote:
chickenstrip wrote:
They can also cause all kinds of weird noises if the little damping pads around them are in poor condition. Best described as "someone swirling a bucket of nuts and bolts around" Laughing New or extra little foam pads solves it.


Yes, 101%!!

Just got back from a quick 75 mile ride up the coast and yet again, this was blighting the enjoyment!

Been a right pain to my ears since I got the bike. Was just wondering if it was worth taping on some wadding, like someone at FOCU said they'd done.


Thin draught excluder strikes me as a decent solution.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 23 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting on alright with this one

https://puu.sh/Dwdsl.jpg

Ive moved up just outside the peak district now so had a few decent runs around it but want to stretch its legs some more. Gone for some Givi racks and going to be a topbox wanker at some point. Side racks for if I go somewhere away with the lady.

Im enjoying the bike a lot though. I removed all the front end to inspect it and investigate a massive ball of gaffa tape I could see under the infil.... Thankfully it was just bunching the connectors together and not a bodge. Tidied up some wiring, the end tabs on the fairing infils were broken and one of the mirrors is sized but just typical stuff.

Main problem I am having is a really bumping ride still, it feels like knocking through the bars when going at a steady speed at lower speed/rpm. Its no the fueling as I can hold in the clutch and I can still feel it. Jacked up the front end, bearings, head and wheel, both feel great. The back disc is warped though, asked for it checked when I got new tyres and there was some runout, but the mechanic said it was not terrible, not close to the limit at all. I can feel it pulsing through the pedal quite a bit though so going to put a new one on. I cant really think what else a bumpy/knocking feeling through the bars could be? Chain has no bad hardspots, suspension travel feels free and responsive. I can only think the disc is giving the bad ride.

Cant wait to get it over into europe by the end of the year Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 23 May 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tdibs wrote:
Getting on alright with this one

Main problem I am having is a really bumping ride still, it feels like knocking through the bars when going at a steady speed at lower speed/rpm. Jacked up the front end, bearings, head and wheel, both feel great.



Fork bushes?
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 10 Jun 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaft wrote:
Tdibs wrote:
Getting on alright with this one

Main problem I am having is a really bumping ride still, it feels like knocking through the bars when going at a steady speed at lower speed/rpm. Jacked up the front end, bearings, head and wheel, both feel great.



Fork bushes?


Possibly?

I took it out armed with spanners, got the rear shock adjust pretty well now, it had no static sag set before and was pogoing me out the seat.

The front however, ive been through all the spectrum of settings, the problem is the first ~10% of fork travel. There is massive resistance to the first 10% of travel, once you overcome that, the fork works as it should. This is what is giving the awful bumpy ride as most small undulations in the road dont force the fork to travel more than the first 10%.

Im in two minds, to see where rebuilding it with new bushes and oil gets me, or send the forks out to K-tech ( few hundred quid) and getting springs and maybe a revalve done.
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 15 Aug 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaft wrote:
Fork bushes?


You were correct.

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