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Fizzoid wrote: | mpd72 wrote: | If ISIS shoot someone with a Kalashnikov or other Russian made weapon, do we blame Russian state too? |
No, but then you can't buy deadly nerve agents at Walmart either! |
Walmart sell tanks, Kalashnikov, missiles and fighter jets too do they? Wow.
Do you really think these nerve agents, who's chemical composition is widely available, are only in the possession of the Russian state? What, over the last 40 or so years, none fell into the hands of non loyal ex-military when the USSR imploded?
Come on, let's be serious here. It's pro EU propaganda which the government are turning into a major issue to cover up the uncomfortable story breaking about Telford's massive and ongoing child sex grooming and rape gangs, which co-incidentally they appear to be achieving very well.
Who gives a shit about a former Russian spy, who turned on his own country, spent 7 years in prison in Russia, then another 7 or so in our country after a diplomatic deal? He hasn't even died yet has he? It's a pure exercise of demonising Putin and Russia. I'm struggling to see why some can't see though the smokescreen.
Russia fixed the Brexit vote, Russua fixed Trump's electoral victory, Russia and the US are our enemies, we must stockpile more NATO troops on the border with Russia, we must all stick together in the EU as we're under attack from Russia, we must create a massive EU army to defend us against nasty Trump and Putin... if it means a former Russian spy has to bite the bullet to cause this public outrage, so be it. Collateral damage. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Pjay wrote: | stinkwheel wrote: | I'd have used tetrodotoxin. |
You're not stupid enough to use Novichok, yet you are allowing the possibility that the Russians are?
Cool. |
Why would it be stupid of them? Not like they'll have to face any major consequences. And Putin wouldn't care if they did. It won't harm him personally. He has a strong enough grip on the country that no one can oust him. Election laws are rigged to keep him in power, and he has all the necessary structures in place to deal with those who try. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Pjay wrote: | It seems the anti-Russian propaganda is working on the general populace.
I know some Russians personally and they are of the opinion that the English are great people and they see us as Allies. This is a common theme in Russia, they just don't see us as we see them.
The most conversations I have had with Russians are of how great we all were in winning WW2. I also had the fortune of meeting a Current Russian Army General and he invited me to his home for dinner with his wife and family and was genuinely excited to meet an Englishman. He went mad with the selfies and couldn't have smiled more the whole time.
So please, excuse me if I dont buy into the dislike for the Russians.
They have without exception been incredibly kind and inviting to me. |
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Pjay wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: | You yourself are proving that people and state aren't necessarily the same thing. And this is the tragedy of it. |
I am pointing out that we are being brainwashed into hating the Russians and they are not brainwashing their citizens.
We have had years of watching American Movies with their Commie hate Campaign, that it's almost a gimmie that we will believe anything anti Russian. |
Nobody is saying they hate the Russians. It is Putin and his state machinery that people take issue with. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Fizzoid wrote: | mpd72 wrote: | Walmart sell tanks, Kalashnikov, missiles and fighter jets too do they? Wow.
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Wait, ISIS now have fighter jets, missiles and tanks? |
Yep...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_equipment_of_ISIL#Aircraft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_equipment_of_ISIL#Tanks_and_armored_fighting_vehicles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_equipment_of_ISIL#Explosives,_anti-tank_weapons,_grenade_launchers,_and_anti-aircraft_launchers
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Do you really think these nerve agents, who's chemical composition is widely available, |
It is? If so, why haven't someone like ISIS used it already? Why build a poor ass bucket bomb, when you can just get all the ingredients for NX gas from Boots? |
They have....
Sarin is a nerve agent.
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So some unknown actor, possibly state sponsored running round deploying chemical weapons. Is nothing, just propaganda. |
It worked on you - Hook,line and sinker. Sorry, but this just isn't walking like a duck or quacking like a duck to me and many others.
Who would benefit from Russia being demonised by the UK, a prominent NATO member, just about to leave the EU?
Do you really think Russia would damage relations over this one bloke, 7 years after he'd been released from Russia to the UK, doing it in a way that leaves such a tag that the majority of proles would believe Russia where wholly responsible?
So ISIS are getting kicked by Russia and Assad is finally starting to win the battle. The EU are about to lose their third biggest net funder who want to walk alone. Can you think of any situations where the EU or ISIS might benefit greatly from Russia being demonised and made into an enemy of the UK?
As for May's blaming Russia with no proof what so ever. Which way did she vote in the EU referendum again? Has she passed a single comment on the massive Muslim child sex grooming gangs of Telford, which appears to be escaping the news, due to this more important story?
Thousands of children still being raped is less important than a former Russian spy being poisoned and surviving? We've seriously got some fecked up priorities in "modern Britain". ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Still not seeing any fighter jets...
And no, I don't class some museum pieces from the late 50's than aren't even air worthy, as fighter jets...
And I'd rather bury my head in the sand than listen to your drivel
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Still pretending not seeing any fighter jets... |
Fizzoid wrote: | And no, I don't class some museum pieces from the late 50's than aren't even air worthy, as fighter jets... |
Even though many of these supersonic Migs are still in active service? wow.
Fizzoid wrote: | And I'd rather bury my head in the sand than admit I was wrong |
Clearly.
Fizzoid wrote: | Seriously, JK Rowling writes more realistic stories than you do! |
I bet she doesn't provide several factual inks backing up Harry Potter for you to ignore though, because they don't fit your agenda.
It's perfectly plausible that ISIS got hold of some of this nerve agent and knew most of our politicians would be as gullible as, you know...those who have joined May's hate campaign against Russia. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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duhawkz wrote: | mpd72 wrote: |
It's perfectly plausible that ISIS got hold of some of this nerve agent and knew most of our politicians would be as gullible as, you know...those who have joined May's hate campaign against Russia. |
Really , they don't seem to me to be the sort to play politics. IF they got hold of a chemical weapon, the strike me as the sort that would deploy in the middle of packed city centre or a football match for maximum effect, while proclaiming snackbar. |
I think they're wiser than you give them credit for.
Propaganda has been used widely by ISIS. Remember the case all across Western news networks for days, of the small boy sitting in the back of an ambulance, covered in dust? Apparently bombed by Assad or Russian forces. Two of the "medics" were outed as ISIS executioners.
Snackbar isn't winning them the war in Syria. Russia are hurting them badly and they need NATO forces to push against Russia. In poisoning this Russian on British soil, they have achieved more to hurt their enemy in battle than 100 snack bars could ever do. It's as plausible, if not more so, than Russian state getting revenge 7 years after returning a double agent.
Even the EU stands to benefit greatly from this and I wouldn't put it past some powerful Europhiles in the establishment to stage this to look like a Russian attack. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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mpd72 wrote: | Fizzoid wrote: |
Still pretending not seeing any fighter jets... |
Fizzoid wrote: | And no, I don't class some museum pieces from the late 50's than aren't even air worthy, as fighter jets... |
Even though many of these supersonic Migs are still in active service? wow.
Fizzoid wrote: | And I'd rather bury my head in the sand than admit I was wrong |
Clearly.
Fizzoid wrote: | Seriously, JK Rowling writes more realistic stories than you do! |
I bet she doesn't provide several factual inks backing up Harry Potter for you to ignore though, because they don't fit your agenda.
It's perfectly plausible that ISIS got hold of some of this nerve agent and knew most of our politicians would be as gullible as, you know...those who have joined May's hate campaign against Russia. |
I suggest you read YOUR 'facts' again
All you've provided is some speculation that ISIS have captured some 60 year old jets that aren't airworthy
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The last post was made 6 years, 16 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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