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Itchy wrote: | me before wrote: |
The only thing I can think of is Iraq Tony Blair subsequent governments went for a Parliamentary vote before any action was taken. The current PM broke this precedent with the recent actions.
It's why when people say rule of law in the UK it's sometimes doubtful. |
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Precedent, not law. Which is why some are calling for it to be made law, which to my mind sounds like a good idea on first examination, except I wonder if there might be circumstances where that would prove unwise? I'm not sure that this latest action would be an example of such circumstances - probably not. |
Uh I'm on about two completely different things.
Precedent as after Tony Blair Cameron set a precedent by asking Parliament before taking military action. It would maybe be a good idea to make this law or have a war powers act like the US... not that the War powers act has ever really prevented the US entering laws. |
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Itchy wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: |
What does Putin mean by "there's no such thing as an ex-KGB man", and "traitors will kick the bucket"? |
They all walk funny after the KGB :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxmDeU_4UlQ
No seriously they do. |
Funnily enough, this isn't actually the first time I've seen this mentioned. I think he's a fan of John Wayne.
Itchy wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: | "traitors will kick the bucket"? |
Well wait long enough everybody dies |
Had an invitation for an interview regarding a post within the Kremlin PR office yet?
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Thoughts on this?
Gas attack was staged by anti-Assad rebels.
For those who can't be arsed to clicked through to a Facebook video:
Bloke says while he was out at work his son was suddenly taken to a hospital and generally had no idea what was going on. They started making him look all scruffy and chucked a load of water on his face, giving it a good scrub. Kid had no idea what was going on so was obviously very distressed, crying etc.
The father was then called while he was at work and was told his whole family was in a bad state at hospital, so he arrived and added to the chaos of blokes doing that wailing thing that Arabs seems to do in times of distress.
A short while later they gave him his son back, a little dishevelled but not at all hurt, and he went home.
A doctor in the hospital testified too, saying the rebels just used one corner to scrub kids and other people with water.
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Lord Percy wrote: | Thoughts on this?
Gas attack was staged by anti-Assad rebels.
For those who can't be arsed to clicked through to a Facebook video:
Bloke says while he was out at work his son was suddenly taken to a hospital and generally had no idea what was going on. They started making him look all scruffy and chucked a load of water on his face, giving it a good scrub. Kid had no idea what was going on so was obviously very distressed, crying etc.
The father was then called while he was at work and was told his whole family was in a bad state at hospital, so he arrived and added to the chaos of blokes doing that wailing thing that Arabs seems to do in times of distress.
A short while later they gave him his son back, a little dishevelled but not at all hurt, and he went home.
A doctor in the hospital testified too, saying the rebels just used one corner to scrub kids and other people with water.
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Lord Percy wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: |
No doubt to mpd's disgust, I'll ask you the same question that remains unanswered by all those defending Russia here: what does Putin mean by "there is no such thing as an ex-KGB man", and "traitors will kick the bucket"? |
Agreed, it's a dodgy statement. But one could argue it has about as much substance as Theresa May and her endless shallow soundbites for building the political image of herself and her party. |
...if it weren't for Litvinenko, I strongly suspect with Skripal, and other cases of poisoning by various agents. If it weren't for the Russian apartment bombings, the way Beslan and the theatre hostage case were handled. If it wasn't for the word of so many Russians, who felt they had to flee the country because they raised their voices, and those beaten up or jailed or dead because they didn't leave, and those who died in 'unexplained' circumstances anyway. If it wasn't for many things which taken together are damning evidence of the nature of Putin's regime. In my view, of course
Quote: | Though I should admit, I would say Putin has more integrity than Theresa May and her folk, so his words have a little more weight. |
Based on what? There are many, both Russian and otherwise, who would laugh you out of the room for putting the words "integrity" and "Putin" in the same sentence. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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For Russia to allow it there would have to be a real reason for them to. They are totally pragmatic about anything they do. |
This is a curious statement to make, imo. Again, based on what? I think it is a way too general statement. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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@Lord Percy.
Try reading this:
https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1382111304l/18663990.jpg
Yes, I know what you say about the books we can get being those the government wants us to be able to read (I disagree, but that's just me). But give it a shot anyway. Some of it I have my doubts about, but I'd call it insightful, nevertheless. If nothing else, it's an entertaining read. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Lord Percy wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: |
Based on what? There are many, both Russian and otherwise, who would laugh you out of the room for putting the words "integrity" and "Putin" in the same sentence. |
You're the one who said he means it when he says traitors will die! |
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Lord Percy wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: |
No doubt to mpd's disgust, I'll ask you the same question that remains unanswered by all those defending Russia here: what does Putin mean by "there is no such thing as an ex-KGB man", and "traitors will kick the bucket"? |
Agreed, it's a dodgy statement. But one could argue it has about as much substance as Theresa May and her endless shallow soundbites for building the political image of herself and her party.
'Strong and Stable' Putin, KGB until he dies, because he said so, go Russia! Russians like the hard man talk, I think?
Though I should admit, I would say Putin has more integrity than Theresa May and her folk, so his words have a little more weight.
Funny way to fail at killing a traitor though. |
If you admire dictatorial Putin for being assertive, tough, decisive perhaps, then haven't you got to hope that the UK will show similar character when there is an attack on its own soil and everything points to Russia? Otherwise you've got a wishy-washy government going, "Well... we can't be unequivocal so we'll just have to do nothing." |
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No you missed the point completely. It isn't that anyone is telling us to read anything at all. It's that books making Putin out to be the bad guy are the ones most likely to sell, for whatever reason, and so they are the ones that are distributed in the highest numbers.
About the book itself, the black cover with sinister half-shadowed face are enough to tell me what kind of angle it's most likely to take
I'll give it a peak if I can anyway |
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No you missed the point completely. It isn't that anyone is telling us to read anything at all. It's that books making Putin out to be the bad guy are the ones most likely to sell, for whatever reason, and so they are the ones that are distributed in the highest numbers. |
Point me towards the books that paint Putin in a better light then. As I said, I like to read as widely as possible, but I struggle to find anything that does this. A cynic might be suspicious about why this is, but I'm not one of those (I would prefer something written and published in Russia, because then I know it's not western propaganda). ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Lord Percy wrote: | Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: |
If you admire dictatorial Putin for being assertive, tough, decisive perhaps, then haven't you got to hope that the UK will show similar character when there is an attack on its own soil and they dubiously claim everything points to Russia? Otherwise you've got a wishy-washy government going, "Well... we can't be unequivocal so we'll just have to do nothing." |
FTFY
About Putin as a person, to be honest he just comes across as a more human character overall. |
Yes, you've guessed what I'm going to say :
Based on what? Perhaps you base it on the way he handled the Kursk submarine disaster, and the things he said at that time? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Most British politicians come across as boring office workers who've morphed their personality into an awful shade of grey because they don't want to stand out. It's impossible to trust someone like Theresa May who so clearly doesn't really give a shit about what she's saying anyway. It's just a job for her. |
And look at the uproar generated when they're not like this; Boris Johnson, anyone? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Old Thread Alert!
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