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It just doesn't wash for me. |
We noticed.
Quote: | For decades we've been told the Russians are amongst the top powers for international espionage, now we're led to believe that they carry out their spying and assassination attempts with all the finesse of Johnny English. |
And you would prefer to believe in a fictional film character. Ok.
Quote: | I really can't believe the convenience of it all. |
We noticed.
Quote: | Even staunch lefty Remoaner comedians are making a link between Brexit and this "make Russia a common enemy propaganda", in order to mock and joke about Brexit. |
All of a sudden, a source useful to you? And this you choose to cite as proof of your theories?!
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mpd72 CPT wrote: | managed to get an arsenal that the Canadian Army would have been proud of |
Is this the truth? Did you ask the Canadian army? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 10:51 - 05 Oct 2018 Post subject: |
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But of course. Everyone who holds a different opinion to you is always wrong. |
Oh, the irony! Excuse me while I clear up the mess I just made because my sides split ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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No it's not, just telling people your opinion and denying the validity of theirs is not a successful debate strategy. you need to present Facts (that are correct ) in support of your opinion, in order to alter theirs.
you also however have to be willing to accept the stated facts of others if you cannot produce the Evidence to the contrary. and then have the Humility and Grace to incorporate their facts into your own opinions, or others won't reciprocate and respect your position. This I fear is where you're falling down when you try to "Debate". |
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It seems that anyone in a position to actually know anything about this is saying that Russia has very little wriggle room this time, as the evidence against them is so strong and so clearly presented, and even the Russians themselves appear to be having a rethink on the tactics of outright denial and ridicule because it hasn't worked.
Surely mpd will change tactics with them? Or will his heroes leave him behind?
First up: Russia reports the US having a biological weapons establishment.
mpd72 CPT wrote: | Nice diversion |
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mpd72 CPT wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: | the evidence against them |
Is what exactly? Anyone impartial to validate this "evidence", or do we just trust what the politicians tell us? |
Where's your evidence to the contrary? Anyone impartial to validate it? Or do we just trust what you tell us?
We can all only go by news reports. But you haven't even done that. You come up with some crackpot idea about some kind of EU/UK/US/ISIS/lefty-Remoaner-I-don't-know-what conspiracy, and expect everyone to applaud you to the skies because you dreamed it up yourself? Write a novel, and stop trying to pass it off as reality. No. People are laughing at you. I'm sorry, but I think it is time this was pointed out to you, since you haven't picked that up for yourself. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Like 4 of them been arrested outside the hague red handed, thats pretty hard to argue with.
Or are they actors, paties perhap just pawns in some deep state conspiracy. |
Have Russia confirmed they are Russian agents, or do we just take the word of pro EU politicians as fact now? If the Dutch "authorities" told you the Earth is flat, I presume, under the same logic, that would also evidence or proof?
I wonder how long they were in custody for?
Quote: | But once they were arrested they were escorted to the airport and put on a plane back to Russia, with UK officials explaining this would have been a decision by the Dutch government. |
Oh, that's convenient. They were never taken into custody and no photographic proof of their existence exists other than some mock up passport photos. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Have Russia confirmed they are Russian agents |
Tell me my eyes are deceiving me! Did he actually just write that?! ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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And why would I trust Russian politicians more? I can't wait to hear your 'reasoning'! ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Al Jazeera - the same television station that is run by terrorist-rapists whose sole goal in life is to take your job, rape your mother then blow you up? MPG you are a closet liberal. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Whilst the EU need to make an enemy out of Russia for it's own political gain, what agenda have the Russians has Putin got? |
FTFY
Quote: | You tend to find a more balanced view of EU or UK news from RT or Al Jazeera than our own MSM. Why do you think that is? |
I don't think that is. You think that is.
"Balanced" in the sense that they support your views Sorry, supply your views. What was all that about thinking for yourself? I had a feeling you didn't have it in you, even as crackpot as your ranting has been.
But at least you have confirmed what I was thinking. You do know, of course, that RT are funded by the Russian government?
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chickenstrip wrote: | mpd72 CPT wrote: |
Whilst the EU need to make an enemy out of Russia for it's own political gain, what agenda have the Russians has Putin got? |
FTFY |
Go on, why does Putin want Russia to face sanctions and become an enemy of the EU?
chickenstrip wrote: | Quote: | You tend to find a more balanced view of EU or UK news from RT or Al Jazeera than our own MSM. Why do you think that is? |
"Balanced" in the sense that they support your views Sorry, supply your views. What was all that about thinking for yourself? I had a feeling you didn't have it in you, even as crackpot as your ranting has been.
But at least you have confirmed what I was thinking. You do know, of course, that RT are funded by the Russian government?
Now, what about your impartial sources, like you demand from everyone else? |
Ah, so you see any news bulletin which doesn't follow the usual bullshit left wing agenda of the majority of the UK MSM, as being far right and not just less far left? Nothing to do with your left wing bias then? No, of course not, it must be my right wing bias, because anyone with a different view to you is abnormal and your view is centrist.
Of course I know who backs RT, why do you think I used them and Al Jazeera as examples of more impartial news? That's the whole point, when the Russians and Arabs can come across as being more impartial and honest about UK news, it shows how fecking bad the left wing anti Brexit propaganda bullshit coming from our own MSM is. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Go on, why does Putin want Russia to...become an enemy of the EU? |
You'll find out more here:
"Putin's War Against Ukraine" by Taras Kuzio
"The War Against Putin" by M.S. King
"Putin's Russia: How it Rose, How it is Maintained" by Mikhail Dmitriev, Evgeny Gontmakher, Lev Gudkov, Sergei Guriev etc
"Nothing is True and Everything is Possible" by Peter Pomerantsev
"All the Kremlin's Men: Inside the Court of Vladimir Putin" by Mikhail Zygar
"The Man Without a Face: The Unlikely Rise of Vladimir Putin" by Masha Gessen
"A Very Expensive Poison" by Luke Harding
"The New Cold War" by Edward Lucas
Just going by the ones currently in my library - should give you some insight from different perspectives Plus of course news from various channels, various newspapers, various commentators, political, military, intelligence...you want more?
The rest of your post isn't even worth wasting my time with, including the bit I edited out of the quote I've used, for reasons obvious to all but you apparently. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: | mpd72 CPT wrote: |
Go on, why does Putin want Russia to...become an enemy of the EU? |
You'll find out more here:
"Putin's War Against Ukraine" by Taras Kuzio
"The War Against Putin" by M.S. King
"Putin's Russia: How it Rose, How it is Maintained" by Mikhail Dmitriev, Evgeny Gontmakher, Lev Gudkov, Sergei Guriev etc
"Nothing is True and Everything is Possible" by Peter Pomerantsev
"All the Kremlin's Men: Inside the Court of Vladimir Putin" by Mikhail Zygar
"The Man Without a Face: The Unlikely Rise of Vladimir Putin" by Masha Gessen
"A Very Expensive Poison" by Luke Harding
"The New Cold War" by Edward Lucas
Just going by the ones currently in my library - should give you some insight from different perspectives Plus of course news from various channels, various newspapers, various commentators, political, military, intelligence...you want more?
The rest of your post isn't even worth wasting my time with, including the bit I edited out of the quote I've used, for reasons obvious to all but you apparently. |
How are any of these relevant to the UK or EU?
I'm talking about a more balanced view of UK and EU news. I'm quite aware that the Russian state TV will be as one sided on Russian affairs as UK and EU MSM will be, where both sides have an agenda. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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