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| mpd72 CPT wrote: |
How are any of these relevant to the UK or EU? |
Read them and you'll find out.
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Do you still live with your mum? Serious question btw. |
Really? Is that all you got? 
As we have seen demonstrated by yourself countless times, and have now even had a frank admission from you to the effect, you don't know anything about the subject you are trying pitifully to engage in. This is why I suggest you read the books, read something about the subject you claim to have so much knowledge of, instead of 2min internet article grabs and headlines carefully selected to reinforce your own whacko fantasy. If you don't have the time to spare to find out about the subject, then at least stop claiming you know anything about it, as you quite obviously don't.
Otoh, I wouldn't want you to stop entertaining me - crack on!
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| chickenstrip wrote: | | mpd72 CPT wrote: |
Do you still live with your mum? Serious question btw. |
Really? Is that all you got?
As we have seen demonstrated by yourself countless times, and have now even had a frank admission from you to the effect, you don't know anything about the subject you are trying pitifully to engage in. This is why I suggest you read the books, read something about the subject you claim to have so much knowledge of, instead of 2min internet article grabs and headlines carefully selected to reinforce your own whacko fantasy. If you don't have the time to spare to find out about the subject, then at least stop claiming you know anything about it, as you quite obviously don't.
Otoh, I wouldn't want you to stop entertaining me - crack on! |
So that's a no to you having read and understood all the links you post, even though you expect others to read them and a yes to still living with mummy then.
Thought so. 
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| Posted: 11:29 - 06 Oct 2018 Post subject: |
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| mpd72 CPT wrote: | and a yes to still living with mummy then.
Thought so. |
Yes, I dig myself out of her grave every morning
When you decide to engage like an adult, without the feeble attempts at insult, then I might answer your questions. But first I think you will have to demonstrate that you are actually an adult, which will take more than a swift change of tack now.
If you think by insulting me I will stop ridiculing your daft flights of fancy, a tactic you often resort to when you have no reply to those who challenge you and highlighting further your ignorance, prepare to be disappointed  (When you insult me, it just reminds me you are on the wrong side of the playground fence).
Nor will I 'enemy' you while you continue to be such a rich source of entertainment
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| chickenstrip wrote: | without the feeble attempts at insult, |
You mean like this?
| chickenstrip wrote: | When you decide to engage like an adult, |
Hypocrite.
To be fair, looking at the bikes you've had, you're clearly a lot older than you come across on here sometimes, so please accept my apologies.
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| mpd72 CPT wrote: | | chickenstrip wrote: | without the feeble attempts at insult, |
You mean like this?
| chickenstrip wrote: | When you decide to engage like an adult, |
Hypocrite. |
That's not being a hypocrite, it's just the honest impression I get of you 
| Quote: | To be fair, looking at the bikes you've had, you're clearly a lot older than you come across on here sometimes, so please accept my apologies. |
An attempt at subtlety? Come on, is that the best you can do?
I can act the child every bit as well as you can. But in my case, I choose when to do so
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So what does everyone make of this website, Bellingcat or whatever it’s called?
Solving the worlds mysteries as all caused by Russia, but doing it far faster than the worlds top intelligence agencies can find the “evidence”?
Who’s behind them then? They're clearly keen on demonising Russia.
It has a bit of a smell similar to the one man band, Assad hater, “Syrian observatory of human rights”. Who runs his unknown funded organisation from his bedroom in Leicester, yet the media lap his views up as independent fact, because it meets their agendas.
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| mpd72 CPT wrote: | So what does everyone make of this website, Bellingcat or whatever it’s called?
Solving the worlds mysteries as all caused by Russia, but doing it far faster than the worlds top intelligence agencies can find the “evidence”?
Who’s behind them then? They're clearly keen on demonising Russia.
It has a bit of a smell similar to the one man band, Assad hater, “Syrian observatory of human rights”. Who runs his unknown funded organisation from his bedroom in Leicester, yet the media lap his views up as independent fact, because it meets their agendas. |
I built a website funded by Google Labs a few years ago about debunking and fact checking breaking news, there were originally 9 partners, Bellingcat being one of them, although I wasn't ever in touch with them directly. No reason to believe they are publishing 'fake news' or anything else that. Look on their website, you can see who they are and their contributors.
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| winz wrote: | | mpd72 CPT wrote: | So what does everyone make of this website, Bellingcat or whatever it’s called?
Solving the worlds mysteries as all caused by Russia, but doing it far faster than the worlds top intelligence agencies can find the “evidence”?
Who’s behind them then? They're clearly keen on demonising Russia.
It has a bit of a smell similar to the one man band, Assad hater, “Syrian observatory of human rights”. Who runs his unknown funded organisation from his bedroom in Leicester, yet the media lap his views up as independent fact, because it meets their agendas. |
I built a website funded by Google Labs a few years ago about debunking and fact checking breaking news, there were originally 9 partners, Bellingcat being one of them, although I wasn't ever in touch with them directly. No reason to believe they are publishing 'fake news' or anything else that. Look on their website, you can see who they are and their contributors. |
It’s amazing how they’re discovering incriminating evidence against Russia, with way less budget and power than MI5 and MI6.
Maybe we should just pay them £65k a year through their kickstarter and scrap these ineffective intelligence agencies?
Or maybe, like the Syrian bedroom for one Observatory For Human Rights, they tick the right agenda for the pro EU establishment and the media who lap it up?
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| Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | It was probably more valuable for the intelligence services to identify the individuals but not let on. |
If that were the case, would they not silence this website with a gagging order?
I was being sarcastic by the way, in saying that this site is achieving far more than MI5/6 can.
The point I was making is that I'm dubious of the agenda and source of this website, much as I am with the bullshit trotted out by the media, including Al Beeb, from the one man band "Syrian Observatory Of Human Rights", which is just a bloke who has beef with Assad, generating propaganda from his bedroom in the Midlands.
I find it hard to believe that one man bands or very small amateur organisations can find proof of wrong doings which the media treat as fact, when MI5/6 etc can't. If this website really is revealing things which MI5/6 were trying to keep quiet, I can see it being shut down very quickly.
Somehow, I doubt this is the case though. So either it suits the government/authorities/security services agenda to demonise Russia, or there's some other organisation behind this site, who benefits from Russia being the common enemy of Europe and it's a bit more than meets the eye.
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| Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | | mpd72 wrote: | So either it suits the government/authorities/security services agenda to demonise Russia, or there's some other organisation behind this site, who benefits from Russia being the common enemy of Europe and it's a bit more than meets the eye. |
There's a third possibility which you seem inexplicably blind to.
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Oh no, I see it as a third possibility, but just as likely as the existence of rocking horse shit.
If we're to believe what this almost one man band crusade against Russia says is true, then either he's far better equipped than our multi billion pound security services, or revealing things they knew but wanted keeping quiet. I find this hard to believe.
There is a minuscule chance he's is just better at this than MI5, MI6 and all the other worldwide security services involved, or maybe his claims just suit the agenda of the authorities, so they're allowing him to make these claims?
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| Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | | mpd72 wrote: | If we're to believe what this almost one man band crusade against Russia says is true, then either he's far better equipped than our multi billion pound security services, or revealing things they knew but wanted keeping quiet. I find this hard to believe. |
Or our security services quickly identified the perpetrators as Russian secret service, chose not to let on that they knew the individuals so they could track their movements, then journalists caught up and let the cat out of the bag. In Russia the journo's would have been silenced, you're right, but not necessarily with a court order. Still, you've said you won't believe until Putin tells you to. It's an odd reaction but good luck to you, comrade. |
What? So we can silence everyone over a case of a gang of Pakistani peado’s, but the authorities and security services can’t keep their secrets from the public domain when it comes to a matter of national security?
I find that hard to believe. Even if they can’t sikence bedroom Putin hater website man, they can silence the press, as happens in most cases involving Muslims or Tommy Robinson.
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How is Jimbo's post abusive you soft cunt?
Is your 'business' teetering on the edge, that's why you're selling stuff off and slowly having a breakdown?
I think you need to see a mental health professional.
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Mpd, whatever your views are, why are you ranting about it all here on BCF? What good do you think it does? Even if you persuaded everyone here to agree with you, what use?
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| Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | National security wasn't compromised by revealing the names of the Russians. It's not a case of not wanting the knowledge revealed, it's about saying let's not admit we know right now, it might prove advantageous or it might not. Then the names are published and it's not a big deal for the security services, it just changes the game. The sex gang trials were potentially compromised by Tommy Robinson's stupid antics. Anyone who wants to see the rapists brought to justice ought to feel angry at the dolt. |
That makes no sense. If the security services were keeping this quiet, I should imagine they'd be having a bit of a chat with one man band website bloke.
Your theory that that MI5/6 knew the names but were keeping them quiet makes no sense. If they were, they could have put the same gagging order on sites like this, that was so important to protect the Pakistani Paedo's in Huddersfield, many of whom were not allowed to be named or talked about.
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| chickenstrip wrote: | Mpd, whatever your views are, why are you ranting about it all here on BCF? What good do you think it does? Even if you persuaded everyone here to agree with you, what use? |
It's a sub forum for debating Politics and Current affairs. What do you think it's for? Why do you comment on here?
It's a perfectly reasonable point. The media are lapping this website's "findings" up as fact and publishing it as so. It seems too convenient to me and a classic case of the MSM publishing something because, even though it's just a tiny website, it suits their agenda.
This is exactly why I'm making the comparison the the Syrian Observatory of Human Rights. It sounds official, but really is a one man band Assad hater, spreading propaganda from his bedroom in the West Midlands. The media don't tell you this though, when they quote his "findings" as fact. Most listeners or viewers will see this as a reputable source and be unaware of what it really is.
My biggest problem with the whole political scene, be it media or through politicians themselves, is that lying and deceiving is becoming the norm and far more prevalent than 20 years ago. It's up to us to debate the propaganda from fact and sources are getting rarer.
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