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Nothing wrong with criticizing Islam in my book, likewise there is nothing wrong with criticizing any religion as they are all flawed. It is labelling every Muslim as a terrorist and nonce that I disagree with.
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| Posted: 16:32 - 18 Oct 2018 Post subject: |
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| Posted: 16:46 - 18 Oct 2018 Post subject: |
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| Diggs wrote: | Nothing wrong with criticizing Islam in my book, likewise there is nothing wrong with criticizing any religion as they are all flawed. It is labelling every Muslim as a terrorist and nonce that I disagree with. |
So Islamophobia is OK in your book then?
This argument can go round and round in circles for decades on Internet forums. Yes, we all know that not every Muslim will be a terrorist or nonce, but we also know, whether we're programmed to ignore the fact or not, that Muslim culture has a vastly over represented proportion of child sex groomers, terrorists, homophobes, intolerance, sexists, bigamists, antisemites, rapists and plenty of other nasty cultural traits.
Crime stats back this up completely, it's not being racist or Islamophobic, it's the truth, just a truth too uncomfortable for most lefties and many who claim to be right of centre, to acknowledge and discuss openly, for fear of Allah and Co shouting racist.
Many public services have been criticised in investigations for turning a blind eye to Muslim grooming gangs because they were too terrified of having a race card puled on them. As a result thousands of white young girls were raped and abused.
The problem is Islam and it's teachings. It's just not compatible with modern Western culture. But like the fools we are, the establishment actively encourage this lack of integration and growth of the extreme forms of Islam in the UK.
Hell, we even tolerate things many Muslim countries wont tolerate, such as full face Burqa style dress, which is illegal in public in many Muslim countries, but not the good old virtue signalling, Multicultural UK.
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| Posted: 18:42 - 18 Oct 2018 Post subject: |
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| Diggs wrote: | Nothing wrong with criticizing Islam in my book,
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Try going into your local mosque and doing that!
Thats the fucking problem, you cant criticize Islam, apparently its perfect and so was Mohammed. To keep banging on about TR is a racist, is bollocks and you know it. Islam is an ideology followed by many races, but if you follow it to the word, then this is what is breeding hatred and violence towards non Muslims.
Yes most Muslims dont know what is in the book of Allah, or what Mohamed did through out his life and integrate into our society. All they know is, hes perfect, but a fair few of them will not go against their fellow brothers, and this is where a lot of the problems lie.
There are far to many intelligent people in the world, including many ex Muslims speaking out against Islam and the dangers it can hold on a western type society. An Islamic state is a fascist state, which is what our Dads and Grandads fought against!
Have a listen to the grown up TR, we were all angry young men once!
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My honest view:
I watched it to 20 minutes and was very impressed. Whichever organisation is behind it has put a lot of thought into presentation, the questions, the Ali-G bloke and his responses etc. I found myself being sucked into TR's vortex of 'good bloke' reasonableness in the same way that Germans were sucked into believing Hitler's heart-felt and much rehearsed views on world Judaism.
I started to read many of the comments whilst I listened and it is clear to me that the hero-worship some people feel for TR is genuine. I now understand why so many on here defend the bloke.
His organisation made one mistake. One conversation thread involved a Bangaladeshi bloke, and it soon turned into a nasty racist attack from people who were until that point coming across as reasonable, rational supporters of TR. At that point I snapped out of the hypnotism.
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I'm not a member of any Political party, but I do admire JC more than I do the current bunch of muppets we call a Government. In fact, I admire him even more as I'd imagine Ms Abbot takes some fettling....
My point about the TR video is that he comes across well and I was enjoying it until I read comments that reminded me of what he really stands for. Good effort though, lads.
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| Diggs wrote: | My honest view:
I watched it to 20 minutes and was very impressed. Whichever organisation is behind it has put a lot of thought into presentation, the questions, the Ali-G bloke and his responses etc. I found myself being sucked into TR's vortex of 'good bloke' reasonableness in the same way that Germans were sucked into believing Hitler's heart-felt and much rehearsed views on world Judaism.
I started to read many of the comments whilst I listened and it is clear to me that the hero-worship some people feel for TR is genuine. I now understand why so many on here defend the bloke.
His organisation made one mistake. One conversation thread involved a Bangaladeshi bloke, and it soon turned into a nasty racist attack from people who were until that point coming across as reasonable, rational supporters of TR. At that point I snapped out of the hypnotism. |
What the last part of your post has got to do with anything in the video, is irrelevant! People make comments on anything that is uploaded, you seem to just be looking for a reason not to watch it in entirety, probably because you felt uncomfortable agreeing with what was being said. Facts and truth basically!
I think this bloke summed it all on what people think of TR, in a short video, take a look and try and stay to the end, its not long watch!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogVvbmeKSDY |
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| Lord Percy wrote: | | robs321 wrote: |
But you still support a bloke who shagged Diane Abbott!  |
It's this kind of idiocy that really sets people apart.
Instead of any useful or functional discussion against ideological opponents, you go for playground taunts that mean absolutely nothing. |
Or maybe the "idiocy" is falling for his virtue signalling stunt in the first place?
Many of the "eye" witnesses say Comrade Corbyn deliberately made an excuse to take his fellow left wing protesters back to his flat, "to collect more leaflets", when in reality, he wanted to show off his shagging of a black woman, to score virtue signalling points with his leftie comrades.
I think that sums him up completely.
| Quote: | According to a Labour figure present at the time, Mr Corbyn may have thought that letting it be known that he was in a relationship with a black woman would demonstrate his commitment to radical Left-wing politics.
The witness describes how Mr Corbyn contrived an incident where a group of party activists had to visit his bedsit, where their arrival startled Ms Abbott.
“One Sunday autumn morning, he had broken up with Jane [Chapman, his first wife], and we were out leafleting. And for some reason he called four or five of us and said: ‘Oh, we’ve got to go back to my flat and pick up some leaflets.’
“It seemed a bit odd – ‘Why the hell didn’t you bring them with you, Jeremy?’ So we all bowl along to his bedsit, follow Jeremy into the room; there on the mattress on the floor in the one room is Diane with the duvet up to her neck, saying: ‘What the ****’s going on?’
“We were quite shaken. You know what it’s like when people you know both sides of break up – you have no inkling they’re going to break up, then suddenly they break up. So there was a bit of people’s surprise at that. It was [the] late ’70s, it was still a point of interest, a white man with a black woman, so he was slightly showing off: ‘I’ve got a new girlfriend, and she’s black’.” |
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| Posted: 09:25 - 19 Oct 2018 Post subject: |
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His organisation made one mistake. One conversation thread involved a Bangaladeshi bloke, and it soon turned into a nasty racist attack from people who were until that point coming across as reasonable, rational supporters of TR. At that point I snapped out of the hypnotism. |
What, you mean the comment where the antagonist tried to pretend he was a TR supporter and went to a rally then to stir things up he accuses everyone else on the thread and TR's supporters of being a racist?
Yeah, sure that's not designed to wind people up was it? I mean throwing a race card in the comments to a TR video wasn't designed to stir up the hornets nest was it?
| Bengali Warrior wrote: | ....the people in the comments are acting like they are not racist and only have a problem with Islam, however when I turned up at the free Tommy March, i was shown so much racism it was unbelievable. |
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I do see your point. The bloke could have been a stooge or it may not have actually happened. We will never know.
Imagine this though - if a Muslim turned up at a TR rally, would he/she be abused by the crowd? I don't mean the carefully chosen Ali-G bloke in the video or a sweaty, nervous chap with a ticking rucksack, I mean an ordinary Muslim with no connection whatsoever to terrorism, paedophilia etc...
TR preaches inclusivity but I don't believe him and I don't think for one second his 'crowd' would act in an inclusive manner either.
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Not that great, 11 got off and one managed to escape to Pakistan, having been sentenced to 17 years in his absence, because the judge wrongly decided they weren't enough of a risk to children or would dare fly back to Pakistan.
These restrictions would still have been in place had the media, mainly the local Examiner, not gone to court to challenge the gagging order, which could have remained in place for 18 months yet, after sentencing and the case was long since finished.
As much of a cover up as the establishment could have hoped for, considering the outrage from the local press and people of non-Muslim variety, plus the highlighting of the cover up by TR.
Much of this is mentioned in the video though. A good point he made was that he never got bail for standing outside the courthouse filming on his phone, yet the peado's here and the Canterbury case were, having been accused of multiple rape by several witnesses.
Why on earth did the judge (Patel was it?) allow these men to stay out on bail, when it was already pretty obvious that Pakistani and Afghan men often flee home before the sentencing? One fled to Afghanistan from the Canterbury case and another to Pakistan from this case.
Hardly a surprise. A local medical negligence case in Kent recently was all pinned on the English doctor, because the Pakistani doctor who was mainly responsible, had already fled back to Pakistan and couldn't be found.
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