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PostPosted: 14:23 - 19 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You're illustrating my point here Smile


But this isn't quite right is it? There's more too it than that.

The group with a much larger proportion of unsavories than average, needs to be of colour to be protected by the left. If Nazi's were Asian, not Aryan whites, the left would probably just see them as being persecuted or misunderstood.

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There are contradictions everywhere. Left wingers tend to be pro-feminist, pro-LBGT, which Islam doesn't have a great track record of Smile I get the distinct impression it's any minority group, even if that minority is against another minority. What I find interesting is the similarities between opposing sides, the left can see the hatred in the far-right but not their own, and vice-versa.
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 19 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are contradictions everywhere. Left wingers tend to be pro-feminist, pro-LBGT, which Islam doesn't have a great track record of Smile


Have you never read the rules of left wing virtue signalling Top Trumps?
Off white skin trumps all possible sins.
As I previously suggested, if Hitler was black, he's have been persecuted and misunderstood, not a person with ambitions to conquer Europe and rid the planet of Jews, a behaviour seemingly accepted when committed by Muslims.


...and this is why I disagree with Mdma on so much of what he says. If Hitler had been black and he'd invaded Poland in 1939, a country we had a treaty with, we would have declared war on Germany just the same. Mdma's logic-twists both bemuse and confuse me in equal measure.
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 19 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...and this is why I disagree with Mdma on so much of what he says. If Hitler had been black and he'd invaded Poland in 1939, a country we had a treaty with, we would have declared war on Germany just the same. Mdma's logic-twists both bemuse and confuse me in equal measure.


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PostPosted: 00:36 - 20 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 02:08 - 20 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Donk is right. They're full of apologies for Idi Amin, after all.
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 22 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's causing a bit of a stir now because the football club, Huddersfield Town has jumped on the virtue signalling bandwagon and has now banned for life, the lad who pushed over £165,000 waterboarded refugee boy.


If true, I've got to agree this is wrong. Said lad wasn't guilty of football hooliganism, and even then hasn't been proven to have acted without provocation.
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 22 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

It reminds me a bit of that MAGA row going on at the moment (the one with the college lad and red indian eyeballing each other).
New footage keeps coming out batting it from one side to the other.
Apologies if this is mentioned in another thread, I've not caught up yet.
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 22 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If true, I've got to agree this is wrong. Said lad wasn't guilty of football hooliganism, and even then hasn't been proven to have acted without provocation.


They've done it as damage limitation, due to the amount of SJW's who have only heard the agenda of one side of the story. This shows the power of lefties manipulating social media hysteria.
He got pushed over on a school field. This sort of shit goes on every day. It doesn't normally end in £165K + in donations, which has bought them a house, the perpetrator being expelled, banned from his football club and his family now living in serious danger and regular from attacks by Muslim gangs.
It just shows the power of assuming racism where it didn't exist.

The same club has a "Foundation Girls Programme" to get girls over 11 playing football. Clearly only Muslim girls need apply though...

https://www.htafc.com/news/2019/january/get-involved-in-the-town-foundations-premier-league-girls-programme/

https://www.htafc.com/siteassets/image/town-ladies/tf-girls-16_9.jpg/Large

Apparently football's well racist towards Asians, even though half the players are black Neutral So they're trying to up Asian inclusion, even though they have less interest in football and are at a disadvantage being (generally) smaller.
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 22 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It reminds me a bit of that MAGA row going on at the moment (the one with the college lad and red indian eyeballing each other).
New footage keeps coming out batting it from one side to the other.
Apologies if this is mentioned in another thread, I've not caught up yet.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=4611317#4611317 Whistle
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 23 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jewlio Rides Again LLB wrote:
Donk is right. They're full of apologies for Idi Amin, after all.


They do follow his lead.

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PostPosted: 18:01 - 23 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If only he could have perverted law enforcement to remove and silence their political rivals instead. :confused:
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 23 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are contradictions everywhere. Left wingers tend to be pro-feminist, pro-LBGT, which Islam doesn't have a great track record of Smile I get the distinct impression it's any minority group, even if that minority is against another minority. What I find interesting is the similarities between opposing sides, the left can see the hatred in the far-right but not their own, and vice-versa.


The far-right are actually left wing. The difference with the socialist far left is that they feel that their hatred is justified by [whatever reason is currently fashionable], whereas the nationalist left wing hatred seems to be mostly for entertainment purposes. The average EDL doesn't seem to be fighting for anything, they just like being fighty and abusive. The existence of the EDL is used by the media to give socialist hate groups a free pass.
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 23 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The far-right are actually left wing.

Are they? That's my problem with the far-right, if they got their way we'd still have a shit country with a lack of houses and services at breaking point, because they don't believe in any 'social' policies.

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The difference with the socialist far left is that they feel that their hatred is justified by [whatever reason is currently fashionable], whereas the nationalist left wing hatred seems to be mostly for entertainment purposes.

I hadn't noticed the second group Smile What makes the far-left dangerous is their self-hatred, I genuinely wonder if some of them would like the destruction of whitey/the west, they at least endorse groups who want just that.

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The average EDL doesn't seem to be fighting for anything, they just like being fighty and abusive. The existence of the EDL is used by the media to give socialist hate groups a free pass.

Oh yeah, TR said as much years ago, that EDL were a bunch of football hooligans. That's why I'm kinda surprised he re-emerged(?) as a self-proclaimed freedom fighter.
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PostPosted: 08:25 - 24 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

The far left are clinging onto outdated ideas of equality, where the rights of a minority group require equal consideration to that of the majority irrespective of expense and implication for the 'greater good'. This was a popular view 40 years ago and a laudable but impractical aim today. I don't think the far left actually want destruction of whitey/the west, but their concept of social justice if followed through makes dramatic change inevitable. This includes more one-legged lesbian Islamist hate preachers funded by the taxpayer.

The far right however is a reactionary movement which purports to stand up for a majority containing mainly 'indigenous', physically fit white people of Christian faith, at the expense of all others. I don't see this as Left Wing because the Left Wing traditionally believed in equality.

Which group is most dangerous? It depends who you are in society. Personally I believe that neither philosophy is sustainable so we have to go for something in between.
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PostPosted: 09:05 - 24 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re. the EDL, this is another in a long line of far right groups in this country. I'm not sure whether it has a political agenda or whether it is just a bunch of blokes who like cheap lager, singing songs and hate Pakistanis.

YL needed to distance himself from the EDL because many of its members are overtly racist, and he portrays himself as anti-Islam rather than that. This gives him a moral high ground and is why many gentlemen in the EDL feel he has 'sold out'. He does like to repeatedly mention a black friend in his videos, to reconfirm his status as non-racist in the minds of his supporters. This makes his supporters feel better about themselves because they can argue that they aren't racist also.

I understand his move to UKIP because until recently, UKIP was seen as a credible if one-trick alternative to the two main parties. This is because Farage is an effective debater and public speaker, and somebody 'ordinary' voters feel they can trust. Listen to UKIP members now and they feel 'sold-out' by a rich man who doesn't understand or care about anybody but himself.

It is right-wing musical chairs. The Left must be loving it because every time the music stops, the right-wing vote is split again...
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 24 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 CPT wrote:
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It is right-wing musical chairs. The Left must be loving it because every time the music stops, the right-wing vote is split again...


You want to be keeping an eye on your own party Diggs. I'm not sure the direction Momentum and Corbyn are dragging it, appeals to the majority of Labour MP's, let alone voters.

Another middle left party would see many jump ship IMO.


I don't have a Party... Left of centre views on most things, but no party out there truly represents me.
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 24 Jan 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 CPT wrote:
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The far left are clinging onto outdated ideas of equality, where the rights of a minority group require equal consideration to that of the majority irrespective of expense and implication for the 'greater good'. This was a popular view 40 years ago and a laudable but impractical aim today. I don't think the far left actually want destruction of whitey/the west, but their concept of social justice if followed through makes dramatic change inevitable. This includes more one-legged lesbian Islamist hate preachers funded by the taxpayer.

The far right however is a reactionary movement which purports to stand up for a majority containing mainly 'indigenous', physically fit white people of Christian faith, at the expense of all others. I don't see this as Left Wing because the Left Wing traditionally believed in equality.

Which group is most dangerous? It depends who you are in society. Personally I believe that neither philosophy is sustainable so we have to go for something in between.


What? You mean they want to look after their own kind before others?
How disgusting, putting Britain and British ahead of the rest of the planet. I mean it's not like we have our own homeless and destitute, yet still give billions of "aid" to countries who have a space program is it?

You see ^ that as racist, I don't. I'd rather help my family before the next door neighbours.


My point was that the far right purports to support a majority of people in this country at the expense of the rest of society. Great if you are white, physically and mentally fit and a Christian. Trouble is, not everybody in this country fits the stereotype. I wasn't talking about foreign aid.
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