More and more boat migrants

[Polarbear]

I don't know who is old enough to remember the Vietnamese boat people after the Vietnam war? They were essentially the South Vietnamese who were being persecuted for being American 'allies'.

When I was on a ship running from Borneo to Japan we stopped and picked up about 50 people from a sinking boat who had left Vietnam a couple of weeks before. They were in a terrible mess and we did the best we could to help them with the meager medicines we had on board.

We got to Okinawa and were told not to dock but to anchor out in the bay and await instructions. It took another 2 weeks before any country said they would take the refugees and we could off load them. The shipping company I worked for then was not impressed at the hold up to the ship and basically insinuated that if the Captain picked up any more migrants he would be looking elsewhere for a ship.

I'm retelling this story because it seems that the present crisis is going to result in a lot more migrant deaths around the world than happened then because, as before, no one wants them in their country.

We have Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand refusing point blank to take any boat migrants in their part of the world. On the news last night there was a boat that had been at sea for 2 months, out of food and water and engine failing. The next bad storm that will be gone.

Australia sticks them on some deserted island.

In Europe we are picking them up but I'm convinced that's only because the news hounds are out and the governments can't be seen to be ignoring it. Cameron has sent a naval ship but said we won't accept refugees. He and others want to sink all the refugee's/traffickers boats so they can't get to sea at all. Perhaps that is the only way to stop it?

Another big problem is a lot of the ones coming to Europe are not refugees, but economic migrants trying to get in illegally.

I don't know what is the answer to this is, No country is going to have an open doors policy so many many of these boat people are destined to die and the world will just keep looking on and making sad noises.
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[CaNsA]

I blame UKIP

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[Rogerborg]

[mpd72]

I think we should follow the French lead of just ignoring illegal immigrants and turning a blind eye to them, in the hope they'll eventually get into the err..... UK.
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[grr666]

I can see the logic in refusing entry. If we the worlds civilised countries roll out the red carpet,
then more and more will attempt the journey, and there's way more of them than us... Any way you look at it,
that's not good for anyone. If they are real economic migrants, with useful skills and the means to
support themselves, then they wouldn't be trying to get in via the back door would they? I also don't doubt
for a second that they want to eventually end up here in soft touch Britain. However they probably
have no idea that there's been a recent change of political climate here and it's one that's unlikely to see
them welcomed them with open arms. If they had any idea what an oppressive police state we now live in
(or so some would have you believe ) then they'd probably realise they are better off in Somalia.
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[smegballs]

Sink the boats! Med war now!
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[Ste]

There's no need to send warships to sink the boats as the inflatable boats are pretty good at sinking themselves.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32593187
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32723573

What to do? If the EU 'accept' the illegally trafficked migrants then that's going to make more business for the traffickers. That's not to say that writing 'return to sender' on their foreheads and then putting them in the nearest post box is the answer because the traffickers will just other ways.

We shouldn't leave the (sinking) boats drifting at sea and so letting all the migrants die. The EU has to do something.

I wonder how long it will be until Tony Blair offers his consultation services to the African countries that the migrants originate from.

[The Shaggy D.A.]

https://youtu.be/0M4IKmvSfhU?t=88

Sorted.
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[mpd72]

[Rogerborg]

[smegballs]

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/battlefield/images/3/35/Fairchild-a10-thunderbolt2-warthog.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100401212828

Maybe they could 'drift' into pic related?

USAF wants to scrap them , there's no AA threat and they are cheap as chips to operate with excellent loiter time. Buy up all them scrappie destined A-10's and give them a new lease of life as the guardians of civilised shores....
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[grr666]

Just a related side note, why is it that black people often aren't very good at swimming? Genuine question.
Name me a famous black swimmer? Exactly.
I googled the question, and I'm clearly not the first to wonder this.
If I were black, the last place you'd catch me is on an open boat in the ocean.
http://www.swimmingwithoutstress.co.uk/swimming-blog/black-men-cant-swim
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[N cee thirty]

enjoy dat cultural enrichment
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[The Shaggy D.A.]

I'm very sneaky, sir.

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[Rogerborg]

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[TheSmiler]

Bit retarded if they think saving all the refugees will stop the tide of them, what they need to do is drop them back off onto the shore they came from. That is the only way they are going to sort this out.
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[Polarbear]

I must admit I quite like the idea of reducing the boat to component parts so as to inhibit their use but who can tell the difference between a genuine fishing dhow and a traffickers one before they are filled with people.

Or do we destroy every boat on the north African coast.
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[Mark65]

Give them food water and tow them back to there coastline, job done.
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[Rogerborg]

[Lord Percy]

Kind of annoys me how people make a beeline for Europe instead of trying to help get their own country fixed.

But then again at the same time there are countless Brits jumping ship and leaving the UK because they also want what they believe to be a better life, instead of trying to fix their own country.

I guess everyone is in the same boat.

[Tungtvann]