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Posted: 14:48 - 24 Jun 2020 Post subject: Musical Instruments for Kids |
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Given that even though the kids going back to school I think standards of education might slip for a while I'm going to attempt to teach some music
I bought an ocarina a while back and I was quite surprised how fiddly the things are! (BTW I don't mean those pointless 4-hole efforts.)
Anyhoo, I'm looking for recommendations for 6+ years. I've always had an irrational dislike of things you can't get an octave out of so I'm a bit out of touch with the value of something like a tin whistle. Recorder seems another obvious choice but terrible music teachers in my childhood have poisoned the things.
Kicking about I have ukuleles and a Venova but they might be a bit advanced? My midi keyboard have way too many distracting buttons. I even considered programming something simple into my Eigenharp - bit of an oxymoron
So, get over my own prejudices or are there other instruments I should consider? ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Mandolin. Small, narrow neck, only 4 (pairs) of strings, standard tuning is like open G on guitar, really easy to bar across for major chords and making other chords easy.
Only downside, possibly, is fingering pairs of strings for little fingers, but might be ok? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Ste wrote: | Kazoos. |
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Posted: 14:56 - 24 Jun 2020 Post subject: |
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Kids pick up stuff so quickly; I think ukes are good because they're a friendly size/shape, don't need much finger strength to fret and you can pick them up pretty cheaply (so less tears when they get dropped/bashed into a table etc.).
Funnily enough I actually played my tin whistle last night for the first time in years . . . had to extract the spider and web/food store from inside of it first though; storing it in the garage clearly has pitfalls. ____________________ TG. |
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Since you already have ukes, how about open tuning them?
Or Drums. Kids like drums. ____________________ Chances are quite high you are not in my Monkeysphere, and I don't care about you. Don't take it personally.
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The Shaggy D.A. wrote: | Since you already have ukes, how about open tuning them? |
Sounds like the perfect solution. Sets them up for advancing onto a guitar later too. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Nobby the Bastard wrote: | You could try a rusty trombone. |
Really, I need to slap a NSFW tag on kids' musical instruments thread
Regarding the mandolin, I played one for a few years for a bit of fun. Are you serious? Double course, high tension metal strings?! Hardly something I'd inflict on an adult let alone my 6yo granddaughter
Don't get me wrong: it's a totally underrated instrument. Same key and fingering as a violin (but without the associated snobbishness) and fantastic range compared to something similar sized like a uke.
I'm wondering whether kids approach things from a rhythm perspective (drums, uke chords) or melody (tin whistle, recorder, etc.) As I don't know how to play a tin whistle at all I think I'll get one and play a few tunes for her on both that and the ukulele and see which she's most interested in. ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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ThunderGuts wrote: | Tin whistles are ace; get a basic book or search online as although the obvious scale is easy enough, fingering gets weird the higher you go. You also have to blow quite hard for it to work properly and subsequently can make a lot of noise. |
Yes, whistles, you'll get more than an octave out of one, although there is a limited range of scales available.
I can highly recommend sweettone brand tin whistles as sounding nice and being one of the easiest to play, particularly on the higher notes. They don't take a huge amount of force to hit the note but equally, make a clear distinction between the high and low range. One of the few that'll hit a very clear and crisp high B (if it's in the key of D). Also cheap.
Most people start with one in the key of D which has broadly the same fingering as a descant recorder, unless they have particularly small fingers. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Tin whistle, uke and a mandolin . . . set up a folk band. ____________________ TG. |
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If she seems like a natural she can have my Kaoscillator but I think that's a bit far off! ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Regarding the mandolin, I played one for a few years for a bit of fun. Are you serious? Double course, high tension metal strings?! Hardly something I'd inflict on an adult let alone my 6yo granddaughter |
Tbf, It's along time since I played one, and I've never had kids - are they really that fragile then? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 18:16 - 24 Jun 2020 Post subject: Re: Musical Instruments for Kids |
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Easy-X wrote: | Anyhoo, I'm looking for (musical instrument) recommendations for 6+ years.
Kicking about I have ukuleles and a Venova but they might be a bit advanced? My midi keyboard have way too many distracting buttons. |
I think it would be a good idea if their learning/entertainment were to lead to possibilities in a couple of years. If you are familiar with an instrument/music, you can actually teach rather than (just) experiment together.
So, a keyboard or ukelele would be excellent. A recorder could also lead on to other things, and I wouldn't discount it an option, descant or possibly tenor if hands are developed enough. Choose a nice encouraging jazzy-looking whatever that's got a bit of pizzazz, not too expensive because that would be silly, but not an ultracheap POC either.
Edit: the thought occurs that a traditional upright piano might be good, if you have room, being nice and solid and imposing with a good big voice, you can get a used one for "not very much". Get one with an iron frame if you do, not a wooden one! |
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Easy-X wrote: |
If she seems like a natural she can have my Kaoscillator but I think that's a bit far off! |
Something in the back of my mind was telling me you had something techy.... maybe why I thought of the vulvas.
Who posted a theremin...Poseidon...typical.
Anyone who can play one of those, in tune with other instruments...then wow!
Even master synth geeks just use them for FX.
Check out arguably the best theremin player and listen here how she 'searches' for the correct pitch...then adds a F-tonne of vibrato. Such is the difficulty. https://youtu.be/pSzTPGlNa5U - Only 2 mins long and simply wonderful. ____________________ Diabolical homemade music Bandcamp and Soundcloud
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 303 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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