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Posted: 16:18 - 03 Dec 2017 Post subject: Re: Another starting issue ...GPZ500 |
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dn38416 wrote: | but as i put it in first it either won't stay there (goes back to neutral), or won't move despite me having the clutch pulled fully in. |
Sounds like stuck clutch plates, but the false neutral is odd ____________________ Current: 2010 WR125X, Carrera crossfire-E.
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Quote: | The clicking noise is coming from the right hand side tail, so near the ingnition box and coil. |
Is it clicking only when you press the Start button?
Quote: | I ran the multimeter over the battery and it was only reading 11.9 - so fairly low. I'll get hold of a charger and give that a go. |
If you charge the battery in situ, remember to disconnect both - and +. Only takes a mo to lift out and charge on the bench anyway, just don't lose the small alloy nuts under the terminal lugs!
Quote: | It's still the original petcock |
They can and do fail internally, there's a small rubber membrane inside which can wear away through use. However yours is probably okay at the moment, I'd advise as a precaution to turn it off when not in use. It's really the vac side of the tap which is quite clever, designed as a rudimentary fuel cut off system, but it can be problematic on older bikes.
Quote: | "not worth it you might as well scrap it mate" |
Just so typical of today's so called service technicians, and makes me even more determined to keep mine going - 21 years old and everything is running sweet as it came out of the factory, so stick with your bike m8, take some pride in the fact you can fix it, and enjoy riding it.
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TheManWithThe... Brolly Dolly
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Posted: 23:50 - 03 Dec 2017 Post subject: |
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Might be a deadded/stuck starter motor.
The solenoid for it is in a cluster of electrical gubbinses behind the right hand cover next to the seat.
Should look like this.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Starter-Relay-Starter-Solenoid-for-Kawasaki-ER-5-ER-500-/200911122465
Either test it with your multimeter, or bridge the two connectors and see if the starter motor turns over.
If it does does, solenoid is probably dead. easy to replace.
If it doesn't, starter motor could be dead.
if it is the SM, they are actually incredibly simple to strip from the bike and rebuild...if not just a tad fiddly.
Or hit it with a hammer and see if it frees up i take no responsibility for cracked starter motors ____________________ MBK Nitro 50, Sold. Kawasaki ER-5, Honda ST1100
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Yes. Flat battery. Solenoids can go duff too but they tend to fail entirely. When you're in and around the solenoid area thought, check the wires running into the main fuse holder for corrosion.
They have a neutral finder mechanism, you won't be able to change up into second with the bike stationary. You probably will with it rolling along. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Yeah the GPz has slots for two spare fuses. I'd simply check them all and if the connectors look clean and bright leave 'em be. The main fuse is a whopping 30 Amp located on the (in) the starter relay. It's easy to check and good to have a spare one of those. Depending on the age of the machine I wouldn't play about with the junction box too much, the wires leading into it become stiff and brittle with age and start to fray. Jap cabling is rubbish, the wire gauge and quality is truly aweful and not designed for durability through our wet British winters, unless you live in California ____________________ Honda CG125>Suzuki GT185>Honda CB 250N>Suzuki GSX400>Honda CX500B>Kawasaki GPZ305> Kawasaki GPZ550>Kawasaki GPZ500S+BMW 650GS |
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Me too, I guess. The only time I had a problem with my GPZ was when the battery got tired over winter. They do want a decent load of volt-amps to start up.
And yes, they do take a while to warm up, especially if you're riding them efficiently, below the funband.
But FFS, don't burn fuel to get electrons. Slapping a charger on the battery at the weekend will be far cheaper and kinder to the bike. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I've bought 2 batteries this week alone.
One was kept indoors (well, unheated conservatory) over winter and charged every few months. It was charged and showing 12.9V so I fitted it to the little NSR.
A push on the starter turned over once then all I got was the solenoid clicking. A quick meter reading showed the voltage had dropped to under 5V immediately.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 83 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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