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Posted: 22:51 - 21 Apr 2018 Post subject: |
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Acceptable summer wear
Come on guys, give OP a break, he just wants to be accepted |
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Posted: 08:12 - 22 Apr 2018 Post subject: |
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Apropos reminder: as of yesterday, all gear sold for motorcycle use in the EU must[*] be CE tested and labelled.
[*] I'm just sure that random "motorbike fashion fancy dress" Chinee drop-shippers on eBay will comply, and that eBay will take prompt action to prevent themselves earning money from those sales. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Posted: 11:09 - 22 Apr 2018 Post subject: |
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The CE thing is not a bad thing or more accurately should not be a bad thing.
The deal is not to skin folk but to help ensure that 'BIKE GEAR' does what is says on the tin.
It is a STANDARD.
Most 'important' stuff is made to some standard.
A regulation/rule/law is there to stop shit-heads from fleecing the market.
The standard will only be worthwhile as long as it is maintained and properly enforced.
Private Imports will thwart the idea of the standard.
Most folk see the need for proper stuff to allow them to do things.
There are many individuals who are more rebellious and seek to take their chances with whatever life/death throws at them.
That is their choice.
I welcome standards. I believe it is better or easier to be able to buy something and trust it will work as advertised/designed without the need to test it yourself.
So the CE thing is a move in the right direction.
Policing it will have to follow suit.
Equally, there are a lot of stuffs which should be banned toot sweet.
Things such as:
Baby-On-Board flags.
Polite Hi-Viz vests.
Big Pipes on Economy Hatch-Backs.
Private Companies dishing out Parking tickets that look 'legal/official. (They should be prosecuted for piracy.)
Lycra on a Fat-Lass.
Baklaf Bastirts.
Aspartame/Saccharin in Irn-Bru. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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If it's not freezing cold or pissing down, I have always worn ordinary jeans on a bike. Other than that, my bike gear is pretty standard. Very occasionally, when it's really hot, I won't wear a protective jacket, but that's a very rare occurrence. One time I did that, I got knocked off the bike. In a similar accident when I was wearing a proper bike jacket, my injuries were the same again. None of which proves anything
My dispute with the OP is in his use of the word "acceptable". What I don't want is for certain levels of protective equipment to become a legal requirement every time you ride. We already have that with helmets; that's far enough imo. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Courier265 wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: |
What I don't want is for certain levels of protective equipment to become a legal requirement every time you ride. . |
don't worry, never going to happen and impossible to enforce. |
Is it though? Most riders do choose to wear a protective jacket from what I see, so the numbers who don't seem relatively few. The helmet law seems to work, except with the so-called "bikelife"/"baklaf" lot. And if an ordinary rider was seen by the police not wearing a helmet, in an area where those types were not common, I have no doubt he'd get nicked for it. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 14:58 - 22 Apr 2018 Post subject: |
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It's easy enough to see if someone is wearing a lid but telling if it's one which meets the required standards isn't so straight forward.
For example, dirt bike helmets look very similar to many full face mountain bike helmets. Okay wearing a dirt bike lid probably increases the chances of you being pulled over by a bored traffic cop but when did you last hear about a traffic cop examining someone's helmet () to see if it's road legal? |
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It would be easy enough to create within such a law a requirement that an item of clothing has a readily visible marking that confirms it's approval as a legal item. You might not get pulled just for wearing a non-approved jacket, but it's one more thing you could be prosecuted for. Those not wearing a jacket at all would be easier targets. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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MCN wrote: | Polarbear wrote: | The problem with CE and any other standards is the supplier/manufacturer must pay huge amounts to get their items tested and approved. In a lot of cases this means any small suppliers are fucked and the consumer loses more choice.
When I was involved with Intrinsically Safe certification the money thrown around was horrendous, 50 grand to get an item examined, then if it passed, another huge amount to get the various different certification (Lloyds, ABS, Bureau Veritas etc.) bodies to certify it for use on their ships.
It's a monopoly creator for the big boys. |
Yes it looks like that but it is REALLY a control to prevent shite getting into the system.
It costs money for quality. It's the cnuts who make cheap-shit or fake who cause the problem.
Under-Cutting doesn't mean quality for less.
It normally means less quality. 😊 |
You are missing the point. When the costs to have something tested are prohibitive, then they are excluding on cost, not on quality.
If the costs that are charged to get it approved can only be accommodated by large volume manufacturers then if you make one off garments to order you are not going to be able to get CE approval and keep those garments anywhere near competitive irrespective of quality.
Yes, it get's rid of the cowboys, but they could get rid of the cowboys for a damn sight less if they wanted, and accommodate low volume, high quality suppliers.
But, this is an argument for if it became compulsory, and it won't happen. ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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Just need something to keep the saggy old man balls from flapping in the wind.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 6 years, 4 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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