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Posted: 15:29 - 03 May 2018 Post subject: |
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Oh, you are going to get Teffed so hard.
As above, any 4 stroke 125. You'll see 100mpg from even the crustiest carbed hack, up to 130mpg from something like an MSX 125.
Pick anything in your budget with the biggest tank, leaning towards Japanese branded if possible, enjoy. Don't over think it, there's no perfect bike. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Most 125 bikes are about 13 litres. Most 125 scooters are about half of that. How far you'll actually get will depend more on the usable rather than notional fuel in the tank, your right wrist, and your tolerance for risk / willingness to push it to a petrol station. Figure about 200 miles for a bike, 100 for a scooter, which is pretty good going compared to bigger engine bikes.
The Varadero 125 has 17.5 litres, and is generally recommended if you can find a good one. The youngest one out there is 9 years old by now though, so it's becoming less likely. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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100mpg is a starting point. My (Moto GP) 125 scooter just seems to sip fuel. ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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If highest mpg is the most important criteria then forget bikes and buy a Honda PCX 125 with stop start system as std. These always seem to do over 120mpg, but can do 130mpg in some conditions.
I don't know much about high mpg 125's these days, but I'm happy to recommend several 125's in the 35-40mpg area. |
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OP seems to want tank range, which is something that I agree with. It was a hassle filling my 11L Burgman 400 so often, especially with the location of the filler. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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I once put my R125 to the test.
Rode very gently and kept the revs low after filling it up.
Can't remember the exact milage I got from the tank but, it was between 280-300 miles before I bottled it and filled up at the next garage.
Tbh, the one thing that pi$$es me off about riding a big boys bike, is the amount of times I have to refuel. Last time I checked, I was getting around 34.5 mpg from the er6f. ____________________ There ain't no devil, there's just god when he's drunk.
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I've done probably almost 45miles running in on 4.7L of fuel on a 125, but it could hold almost 9L if I could work out how many Slippery synthetic Esters that would need?
I do have a vague recollection of beating the hell out of a CG125 decades ago, and it doing over 200miles and still not touching reserve. What were they a 14L tank?
Shaft won't like this, but out of everything I've owned capacity for capacity, scooters were the worst on fuel, not just tank range. Those expanding belts absorb an awful lot of power that the rear wheel never sees, as does running constant rpm on acceleration. |
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Dave70 wrote: | Last time I checked, I was getting around 34.5 mpg from the er6f. |
Take a deep, calming breath.
Centre your chi.
When you feel ready, and only when you feel ready, raise your left foot, holistically.
Congratulations: you have now discovered 2nd gear. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Posted: 19:04 - 04 May 2018 Post subject: |
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Book says my 125 augt return something like 100mph. Same book, says my 750, should only return 50.
750's tank, is relatively large, holds 4.2 imperial galleons.
125's is also relatively large, for a tiddler; holds a claimed 3.7 Imperial sloops....
In theory, the 750 should give a range of about 200 miles, the 125 a range of almost 400 miles....
In PRACTICE... means squat!
Round town, neither return anywhere close to what the book says they should... depends on right wrist, frustration, trappic light GP's and road-works.....
Out of town...... it STILL depends on the right wrist, T-Junction GP's and road-works! Oh... and what mood I am in! Which is probably the more pertinant.
The 125 gets thrashed mercilessly.... that's why I keep one about! Ride the 750 like I hooligan... and I probably wouldn't end up dead... just give myself a hernia trying! 125, begs to be caned to get anything out of it, and conveniently can deliver almost all it has without breaking too many speed limits along the way.... or my small intestine!
Consequently, I tend to get worse than book from the 125, and better than book from the 750... and they BOTH average out at around 70mpg... the 125 being thrashed, the 750 tending to be used on longer runs, in rather more laid-back manner......
MEANS.... err, well there's half a clipper difference between the quoted tank size of either.... and both will be running onto reserve at around 200-250 miles.....
For where you are quibbling... well, AFAIR the MT07 has a peculiarly small tank to begin with 14liters.. what's that in English,. err... 4.5 Napoleons to a galleon... err... 2 and a half gallons, ish? Fuel winjected, it probably dont have a reserve, just an anoying lamp that blinks on the fuel guage when it gets 'low' set to come on rather concervatively not a lot beneath half full...... assuming you dont ride for best mpg, and you stuffer the sitty-snarl, what, 50ish mpg? You probably have that lamp pigging you off in around 60-70 miles from jazza... slopping over the filler cap on the fore-court..... sort of suggests a longer commute, if you have to fill every day.... b-u-t....
The issue of tank-size, probably ISN'T that much of a big deal in the greater scheme of stuff..... neither is book quoted MPG... it comes down to how you use it, and whether you get even anywhere close to that book quoted MPG, and the range of the quoted tank-size down to your tolerence for blinking lamps, and natural parania levels..... A-N-D you will probably not find a different bike, inherently solves the problem.....
For every-day commuter.... the apparently high MPG of a 125 does look good... but I rarely get it..... and get as good from a big bike I dont feel compelled to thrash as hard.... larger tank-size, for greater range, then becomes a little less critical, and how often you have to fill up... the 'REAL' issue here, it seems.... is something you either live with.... or not. Move closer to work, get a job closer to where you live, let a bus-driver worry about the fill-ups at the depot, sort of thing.
How long does it take to fill up?
Maybe 10 minutes a day, it could rather dent the time savings you expect and probably dont see taking the bike, wheretogging up either end, eats another chunk of unpaid life.... B-U-T is that less than an hour a week, more of less wasted filling a bike with fuel, than waiting for the wrong bus to turn up, or the boss to moan about your helmet hair or the puddles under your wet-weathers on the back of the door?!?!? And how much time 'really' is that compared to other 'routine maintenance' like checking the oil level, and the other stuff you probably dont, but probably should, do, like cleaning the lamps and number-plate, or de-icing the speedo on a frosty morning?
All needs putting into context, not looking at under the microscope..
THEN, is a smaller bike, with a notional and oft only presumed bigger tank and tank range, really a solution to much if anything, or just a different mix to the compromise? ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Evil Hans wrote: | What have you done with the real TM ? |
Aaaaaah, there we go. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 358 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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