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Posted: 17:40 - 03 May 2018 Post subject: 2 Thefts in 4 months - not enough police!!! |
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Hey everyone,
This is my first post, so apologies if its in the wrong section!
I've pretty much had my motorbike stolen twice in the space of 4 months. The second time was this week, when I reported it as a crime in progress as the brand new motorbike (125cc, bought 2 weeks ago) had only just been taken away by 2 lads. The police said there weren't enough resources for anyone to search nearby.
Needless to say I am still bikeless, pretty annoyed at the theft and pretty annoyed at myself for delaying the purchase of a tracker. I've been wondering if there is anyway, or anything being done to increase policing and ensuring someone does care when this happens again. I have been told to write to our Chief Constable about the issue but has anyone else had experience in this?
Before I move on to the 3rd bike one day and can afford a hiked insurance premium, is there any way (legally!) to get law enforcement to treat such matters more seriously? Or is it just a case of chaining the bike up and hoping for the best? ____________________ \o/ |
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Posted: 17:46 - 03 May 2018 Post subject: |
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You should have told them you were in pursuit and going to run them off the road.
Or you could have said you were letting them know before you load your shotgun. :up; ____________________ Mpd72: I can categorically say i’m Brighter than that, no matter how I come across on here.
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Posted: 17:56 - 03 May 2018 Post subject: |
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London police didn't even start to take it seriously after folk were murdered up a treat protecting their bikes and scooters.
My advice: persuade a relative to become the leader of Her Majesty's opposition, get mugged by a pedboi, then all of a sudden they'll start to crack down.
But really, we're a low priority. People are being mean on Facebook, or turning their dogs into Nazis, don't you know?
As above, threaten the thieves with violence and you might get a response, although not one you'll like. Really though, your best bet is to be pretty sure they brandished a gun. And they called you a racial epithet (muslim counts as a race, white doesn't).
https://www.policeconduct.gov.uk/complaints-and-appeals/make-complaint for what it's worth.
I woudln't have a bike if I didn't have a garage, is the tl;dr answer though. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Posted: 18:14 - 03 May 2018 Post subject: |
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Rogerborg wrote: | London police didn't even start to take it seriously after folk were murdered up a treat protecting their bikes and scooters.
My advice: persuade a relative to become the leader of Her Majesty's opposition, get mugged by a pedboi, then all of a sudden they'll start to crack down.
I woudln't have a bike if I didn't have a garage, is the tl;dr answer thoug h. |
See what you mean. I've got a secure car park at home now after the first theft. This one was at work in broad daylight, with barriers, security and cctv!! Will never get to practise for the full licence at this rate.
Meh, I'll just wrap the next one in chains and everything, it seems... and go running after them like a crazy lady ____________________ \o/ |
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What brand? How many? Locked to what part of the bike and what object?
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It's important information because people get scared by thefts when, truth be told, a lot of them are because first time riders don't have the knowledge of preventing opportune t-leafs from wheeling their (the rightful owner) bike away.
Outside of London I'd call it a very brazen move to attempt an angle grinder broad daylight attack. Which, to me, is what I imagine half of these thefts to be when, in reality, the above paragraph is more the answer unless high value bike.
Edit: second attempt sounds like you were followed (which is a pain in the arse since you can't escape from anything on a tiddler) or a very unfortunate opportune moment for t-leaf. Unless, that is, your work is in a particularly rough area of your city. ____________________ The do it all, T̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶r̶o̶k̶e̶n̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶,̶ ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶i̶g̶ ̶l̶u̶m̶p̶,̶ ̶C̶h̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶N̶o̶o̶d̶l̶e̶ |
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Posted: 18:50 - 03 May 2018 Post subject: |
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NJD wrote: |
What brand? How many? Locked to what part of the bike and what object?
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One oxford chain on the front wheel :/ Have to hold my hands up have only been riding since last summer so pretty much a newbie.
Its just so frustrating you can't even leave your own bike unattended for a few min in a known place.
For my next time, once I can afford it, will buy a tracker, disc lock on top of the chain before even thinking of buying a new bike. That should do? ____________________ \o/ |
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jillbob101 wrote: | One oxford chain on the front wheel :/ Have to hold my hands up have only been riding since last summer so pretty much a newbie.
Its just so frustrating you can't even leave your own bike unattended for a few min in a known place.
For my next time, once I can afford it, will buy a tracker, disc lock on top of the chain before even thinking of buying a new bike. That should do? |
The whole theft epidemic is something I started to notice towards the tail end of 2016, including the increased publicity of London. In the brief period I rode before that theft was always manageable with a chain, or two, but, as I say, most recently chains have become nothing but a visual deterrent.
If you've never been told then you're not going to know any better than what your local shops sell. Quit investing in Oxford and take a look at Pragmasis. I'd recommend a 13 mm for out and about (2.0 m, perhaps; 1.5 m is the shortest I'd go for) and a 16 mm for at home (or 19 mm, if you're rich for future investment). You'll also need a tailbag to carry that around in (Kriega's reviewed as the best value for money but Oxford works -- beside when their zips snap -- also etc etc).
As for a disc lock it depends on what type of disc the bike you purchase has. You could use a R21 roundlock from Pragmasis or a disc lock from the shop, they're generally the last form of defence (beside the steering lock) and shouldn't have much hope placed on them (hence why chains are the best form of defence).
A disc lock is best placed in the rear sprocket or brake disc since a thief can lift the front of the bike and wheel it away, or into a van. It might feel weird but it works (at home you can put one on the front and rear just to be a pain).
A chain is best looped through the rear wheel, through the underside grab rail and around an object (most 125 cc's have generous underside grab rail space between it and the frame).
Wouldn't bother with tracker. Probably just buy a £1000-£1500 Jap 125 and focus more on physical security than something that might get you a burnt pile of junk back. ____________________ The do it all, T̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶r̶o̶k̶e̶n̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶,̶ ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶i̶g̶ ̶l̶u̶m̶p̶,̶ ̶C̶h̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶N̶o̶o̶d̶l̶e̶ |
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