Why no motorcycles allowed in bus lanes!!

[HappyDays]

Got to say why does Manchester have such a shit policy on motorcycles in bus lanes when the traffic is so bad in the city?

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/use_of_a580_bus_lane_by_motorcyc

Manchester council needs to sort this shit out!!
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[Courier265]

It's worked very well in London, Manchester should follow.

[M.C]

[grr666]

They are here.

Makes me LOL how few cagers seem able to read the time restrictions either. I've flown past a queue all snarled up
in the next lane when the all but empty bus lane is ok to drive in for all traffic. Not my fault they can't read/tell the time.
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[UncleFester]

As a regular London cager

1. Lanes keep changing so what's bus lane at one time one day isn't guaranteed to be that the next time i'm there.

2. Whatever queue you jump in one moment, you'll just get snarled up elsewhere.

3. I'm sat down and i'm comfortable and on works time, i'm in no rush. AC on and music etc. Not being stunk out by fumes etc etc.

4. If you do use the lane at the right time, you just get cut up / sworn at and are unable to get back in further down the road because the idiots think you're cheating.
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[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

Has anyone here ever got fined for using bus lanes? I'm a bit twitchy about it myself, but there are so few in York anyway that I couldn't if I wanted to. But in a bigger city with more of them, I think I'd definitely be tempted. It's less of a conscience issue than, say, speeding. Doing 50 in a 30, 40 in a 20 sometimes feels like bad karma - I tend not to do that sort of stuff too often. But empty bus lanes - I think using those is not negative karmically, and possibly even positive.
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[Davemc37]

That the rules for motorbikes are not consistent with each individual borough determining whether you can or can’t. So for example you can in Camden but turn the corner and I don’t think you can in Islington. I must pass through about 8 different boroughs each day so it’s a real pain.
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[Ste]

[stinkwheel]

Been quite some time since I've driven anywhere with bus lanes but a lot of people used to stay out of them altogether due to (in my oppinion deliberate) varying of the active times along a particular route. So you'd start off in an inactive one then it would become active once you crossed a particular junction.

Miss that one sign and you get a fine. Good little earner. People took the not unreasonable decision to stay out of htem altogether.

At one point, it was possible to drive into Glasgow Central station without transgressing a bus only lane but not back out again. My Dad got done for it. He tried to get copies of the traffic orders etc to fight it but landed up ragequitting before he had a heart attack. "You're free to inspect the traffic orders. In person. At our office. They're in a locked filing cabinet, in a flooded basement between 3 and 4am on the first Thursday of every month without an R in it. Watch out for the leopard."
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[Dave70]

Y'all need to move to Liverpool.

Thankfully our city council had the common sense to scrap bus lanes (except for the city centre) as they realised they caused more problems than they solved.
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[Itchy]

Manchester bus lanes are enforced by little Smart Cars with periscopes. They also use them during non-bus lane time hours to enforce mobile phone car use penalties.

The thing about Manchester is they keep shrinking every road going into the centre. All the Northern Roads have both bus lanes AND cycle
lanes.

Bury New Road used to be 2 lanes in 2 lanes out. It's now 1 lane in 1 lane out with numerous choke points.

The key to getting around Manchester quickly is just to use the M60. It's almost always faster to go round the outside and in via the 602 which has ample filtering space for bikes until you get to the Casino.
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[Howling Terror]

Buslane system is trixy when heading into Manchester from the south.

Runs from 2 lanes where after 7pm you can use both lanes then some short sections where it's buses only at any time.
For the uninitiated it's easy to pick up a fine.
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[yen_powell]

I've started the ball rolling in my borough for letting motorbikes in to bus lanes.

When my mum was terminally ill and I had to get to her house each day after work before the carers left I used to get snarled up on the A12. To speed up the trip I would use the bus lane in Gillender Street to get ahead of the queue whilst keeping an eye on the enforcement camera to see which way it was facing so I wouldn't get pinched.

I kept thinking then that they should sort out the change, TFL are encouraging boroughs to let bikes in to their local bus lanes, but there was no one at work with enough time to sort it out.

I volunteered to get it done and paid outside people to first of all carry out a survey of all the bus lanes we have, pick up on the damaged or incorrect signs, draft up working drawings for replacement signs and provide plans and schedules for their replacement. They also had to carry out safety audits for each lane. I even had them up ladders measuring x heights and sign sizes in case the posts wouldn't be big enough for any new plates.

This financial year I will get them to go through the many separate traffic orders, most only on paper, no electronic copies available for some and get them to write a consolidating order that adds motorcycles to the exempt vehicles. This will have to be advertised and consulted on with the Police, cycle groups, TFL buses etc. If that goes okay it's time to ask for some money to replace all the signs and let the enforcement people know about any changes.

The only problem is every time I get a chance to start stage 2 with the traffic orders they give me more work to do elsewhere.
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[dydey90]

I work in Bradford. The police readily admit that they turn off their ANPR cameras because nobody has insurance, tax AND an mot.
What’s a bus lane?
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