Popo chase rules clarified

[Itchy]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44204844

[Ste]

Bikelife must die.

That's the only answer.

We cannot coexist.

[Rogerborg]

Their ideology is incompatible with a civilised secular nation.

Also, this is a re-announcement from rants passim:

[ThatDippyTwat]

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/708820/180522_Police_Pursuits_Consultation__Final_GOV.UK_.pdf
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[Rogerborg]

Consultation is up now, fire in: https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/police-pursuits

Nick Hurd needs to get a haircut, for one.

tl;dr version -

[M.C]

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[stevo as b4]

It's a difficult one isn't it?

Firstly though bikelife must die (Ste for PM) Its like pikeys and chavs, how can we do this realistically? They are all poor little disadvantaged and neglected Angels that society has forgotten or repressed.

As for police chasing bikes helmet or not, I don't have any problem with this or lots more stingers, tasers and electronic ECU friers etc.

But are predominantly cars and the very occasional expensive helicopter actually much good for chasing bikes in towns and cities? I think not personally and that if you want to get away it's easy once your prepared to violate traffic laws.

My issue isn't with bikers potato'ing themselves or cops running them over or ramming them to death, but the risk to pedestrians and innocent people around that will get hurt and killed from more chases gone wrong. So giving officers a monthly bonus for mowing down bike riders isn't going to work. Personally I don't give a shit about anyone on a bike dying that's riding illegally, on non road registered bikes, or not wearing a helmet. But if lots of pedestrians, cyclists, children and highway workers get wiped out in the process it's not justified IMO.

Shooting them would be more effective and with less risk to life than high risk prolonged chases in high traffic and people density zones.

[dn38416]

I think the police bikes are trained to take them down with minimal collateral damage.

I guess it's just a case of getting them to the right places quickly?

[M.C]

[Rogerborg]

[BTTD]

Semi auto taser machine guns.

They're safe for the people using them and I would imagine quite effective.
Pursuit car - driver concentrates on driving, passenger plod leans out the window screaming "Git some" while tasering the sht out scooterists.

[Octapode]

There's an easy enough way for the coppers to take out the Bikelife twats. All they need to do is ride up behind the little shits and chuck something (a good length of rebar, maybe?) through their rear wheels. The chav gets grated down a few hundred feet of tarmac, the cop just has to steer around the mess, and we all get to laugh at the GoPro footage. A quick bribed judge for precedent making the pokey liable for any damages caused, and it'll all get sorted out soon enough.

[MCN]

All Police Chase vehicle to be retro-fitted with these to Stamp out Baklafismary.

https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2012/11/why-didnt-1930s-cow-catcher-pedestrians-ever-catch/3989/
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[kgm]

Only specialist traffic officers (not just the average traffic cop) are trained to stop vehicles by tactical contact, it's pretty rare. No average response driver is going to deliberately attempt it. No way a bike is going to be used to stop another bike, their use in pursuits is limited because of the danger of being rammed.

Even normal car pursuits usually get ordered off by the control room after 30 seconds these days. That means let the vehicle go and drive in a other direction...

[dn38416]

[Rogerborg]

I am all astonishment. "Tactical contact" sounds like it would need nine levels of approval, written, in triplicate. Good on him for having a go.
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[NeverAgain]

[stevo as b4]

I'm all for pursuit if it often gets the right results and doesn't harm the general public very often. But I assumed bikes for the reasons mentioned wouldn't be utilised mainstream for Police pursuits. Range Rovers sound better in some ways, but how effective is a Range Rover at catching a bike in busy city streets?

I'm thinking back to the Rat thread now, but can't we offer bikelife people some free food that's riddled with poison instead? It'd get more bodies in the back of the ambulance and with less risk to Joe public too.

Bait bikes on a much bigger scale too? You'd not need CCTV footage or anything,just some long range marksmen on an office block over the road etc.

[UncleFester]

National Service / Mine Clearance.
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

Make like the South Africans?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V90hgeYihaA

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