76 in 60 - Insurance update

[colink98]

Supposed it was going to happen sooner or later.
Was on the M20 where a variable speed limit was in place and i did not slow down.

The wife opened the letter and it says 3 points and £100 fine or go to court.

i don't have any other points or endorsements and a clean license since 1990.

there is no point disputing the fact.
but is it worth seeing if i can get a speed awareness course as opposed to the points ?
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[Ste]

Roger will be along shortly to explain the difference between a fine and a bribe.

[ThatDippyTwat]

The threshold (generally) is Limit+10%+9mph. 60+6+9=75, so you're just over. IF you were eligible, they would have "invited" you to pay monies to go on said course.
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[Fizzoid]

Might be worth asking, but I believe you're too far over the 'limit' to qualify for one
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[grr666]

As far as I know, you would have been offered speed awareness course if you were eligible. I've sat through one. It was very
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[Copycat73]

re-read the letter .. it gives the current limits for speed awareness courses ..
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[P.]

Did you happen to get it between J6 and J4. I may be feeling a hit on the wallet given the weekends enjoyment.

[Rogerborg]

[colink98]

[colink98]

[SteveSmith]

Disclaimer - I'm a magistrate so know a bit about the processes here, but I can't give advice on these things. This is general information only!

You are completely entitled to go to court if you're accused of any offence, but it's worth thinking about. If you do choose to go, the first decision is whether or not to plead guilty (i.e. did you do it?). If you say you're not guilty, the prosecution will have to prove in a trial that you are. I don't know about your case, but generally these things are very procedural and if the police have sent you a NIP they are usually confident that they've got the evidence to back it up. Mistakes happen though, so if you've got good reason to think you're not guilty you can make your case.

If you plead guilty or are convicted after a trial, the magistrates will sentence you based on the guidelines here :

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/item/speeding-revised-2017/

The starting point for 76 in a 60 is a band A fine and 3 points. Band A means 25% to 75% of a week's income. As 76mph is near the top of the range, the bench may well issue a fine nearer 75% than 25%. You would get a third off the fine if you pleaded guilty at the earliest opportunity.

On top of that you'd normally have to pay some or all of the prosecution costs (usually £85 if you pleaded guilty, £620 if there's been a trial) and a "victim surcharge" of 10% of the fine with a minimum of £20.

You do have the opportunity to argue mitigation, i.e. "I did it but there's a good reason not to punish me too harshly". Magistrates have the discretion to award a lower punishment if there is a good reason, and the guideline I linked to gives a list of mitigating factors that a bench might take into account. Beware of bullshit though - most magistrates have heard it many times before!

Hope this helps,

Steve.

[Fizzoid]

Presumably the 'victim surcharge' goes to the local cats home?
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[Polarbear]

[Rogerborg]

[colink98]

[colink98]

Ok had a look at the letter and as Roger says its a S172 document.
i have taken a look at the photos and its very clear the 60 MPH limit is in place.

My bad.

when driving home i had a good look and there are a set of the yellow camera to the side of the gantry.

my fault for going to fast and for not seeing them before.
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PCX125 (stolen) - CBF600 (current)
Ride it like you stole it.
ride sensible and not like an idiot and you wont get 6 points in one week.

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

[Nobby the Bastard]

76? Meh, go big or go home.
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[colink98]

Well thats me fucked...

another letter...
2 days later at the same point 68 in a 60.
this one suggests fine, court or awareness course.

as i have 28 days to respond and i can send scanned copy's..
Maybe if i reply to the 2nd letter first they will send me on a driver awareness course.

and then reply to the 1st letter afterwards and take the hit.

what a fucking week last week was.
heres hoping i was spanking the crap out of it Friday or Monday at that same point.

the wife is raging.
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PCX125 (stolen) - CBF600 (current)
Ride it like you stole it.
ride sensible and not like an idiot and you wont get 6 points in one week.

[P.]

Speed awareness that shitter, its money, but fewer points.

Assuming these ones? https://goo.gl/maps/bo9RKJC4CHD2

They are fucking hidden in summer months and I have to remember to shave some speed off.

Thats proper gash luck as well

[Rogerborg]

[colink98]

[colink98]