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Plus Life EV wrote: | Because, like I said, I don't want to. |
So..., for the sake of a couple of hours or so, all told, you'd rather increase the risk of failing your mod1 or 2, and thus delaying the time before you're able to legally remove your L plates and all the advantages that come with that, well, when I say all, the handful of advantages, but you know what I mean !! ____________________ Beware what photos you upload, or link to on here, especially if you have family members on them |
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Im sure i'll find out when I turn up anyway, I just wanted a heads up wether or not I am likely to even get through the gates |
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If I had had my garage broken into, and all my tools stolen, and the old exhausts and other junk, only I seem to think worthy of anything but a skip... and I had a bike, and a licence, and could get around....
Spending almost £100 to convert my perfectly adequate for however long A2 licence into a must-have 'A' one.. I HAVE to say PROBABLY wouldn't be right at the top of my 'Must-Do' list...
Worrying whether my, self-confessed "not road-worthy" bike, cos its can's too loud, but MOT man don't moan 'cos he knows its in his 'discretion' and even if he did, I'd just take bike home and swap the can for stock, and bring it back, then swap it back over soon as I had bit of paper in my hand.... would then be a bit of rather redundant consequential worry....
But lets have a think about this...
You bung a bike in for MOT with loud pipe and small plate.... you KNOW before you start MOT man has cause NOT to give you the ticket you want..... He may moan, he may not.....
You turn up for test on a bike with loud-pipe and small plate... NO its not DVSA-Dereck's job to MOT your bike... nor do the cops's job of enforcing RTA..... B-U-T... you still want a bit of paper off him.... and rules say bike must be road-worthy.... and legal... and with a loud pipe.. you KNOW its not.... he may, he may not.... let you take test....
But it AINT a good start... and IF you turn up for test with that 'known' risk, audibly on display..... what other little infringements did you also take to test, or ride with every day? And Is that going to endear you to DVSA Derick, and make him more of less inclined to check a 'fail' box, when you make a cone wobble as you pass, or whatever?
Your call.... your risk... and you KNOW it to be one......
Meanwhile, you have to save up for some new tools.... wouldn't that, perhaps be better use of the £100 test fees? Would putting a better padlock or whatever on the garage door, be better use of time and money, than chasing tests... on the cheap, on your own bike, you already KNOW is in the margins of the test-spec?
A-N-D... if all goes your way, and you DO get a Ride-What-You-Like 'A' out of it.... what then? You have, I assume been ignoring licence restrictions for however long, riding unrestricted 'A' bike on restricted 'A2' licence...... so what gain the licence? Oh its now legal!!! Well... give or take the 'pull-me' pipework.... otherwise little different... so what's the odds,. you dont merely want to pull the restrictor and let Ins-Co reset your riding history to nil, you want another, fill power bike... one with more power than might be restricted.... I mean you dont go take Ride-What-You-Like 'A' tests to go buy a moped, do you? So, back to the tools and the garage door... how much you pondering paying for this must have more powerful motorcycle... and STILL the tool-box is empty and the garage door swinging ajar..... so how log 'till the chains slacker than lucy-lastics nickers, or you are hopping around wondering how to do an oil change, or fretting that this new bike could be nicked from unsecure garage......
But hey.... its YOUR CALL... you have all the answers and all the reasons to do what you want.. not us. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Rogerborg wrote: | Why on earth would you wait years for the law to maybe change, then pay hundreds to a Mike while riding around for a day? |
Source on reason for a hold up?; source for the proposal?
From what I remember of my one day of training, not so long ago, they still haven't recovered the money used to create the purpose built test pad. And, at this point in time, continuing to use the current licensing system feels like it only exists to justify the expenditure needed to create the current system.
Feels like a fight between admitting "we got it wrong" and deciding what suit wearing official takes the blame for wasting all that dollar.
Trusting training schools to upgrade people, however, introduces a very interesting level of trust. I'd trust my local one, mind, but not everyone operates on the same level.
Just remove the whole three license thing and have a CBT and a full license, perhaps with an entry age limit of 19-21. Everyone has their own solving theory, suppose; I won't hold out an ounce of hope for logic to apply, though.
Rogerborg wrote: | You know you can pass these riding tests, you've already done them. |
Just make sure you weave in and out of lanes to dominate all space on the road during your Module 2 to prevent people from overtaking so that you can pass. ____________________ The do it all, T̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶r̶o̶k̶e̶n̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶,̶ ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶i̶g̶ ̶l̶u̶m̶p̶,̶ ̶C̶h̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶N̶o̶o̶d̶l̶e̶ |
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NJD wrote: | Rogerborg wrote: | Why on earth would you wait years for the law to maybe change, then pay hundreds to a Mike while riding around for a day? |
Source on reason for a hold up?; source for the proposal? |
Improving motorcycle training: consultation results by one Mx R. Borg.
NJD wrote: | From what I remember of my one day of training, not so long ago, they still haven't recovered the money used to create the purpose built test pad. |
Mike "The Bike" Penning tried to nix the Mod 1 completely when he was Parliamentary Under-Secretary (Department for Transport) (Roads and Motoring), and go back to a single on-road test.
DVSA Derek (well, Sir Humphrey) called foul because he was so terrorscared of putting down cones and speed measurement things on the road (why need?), plus he has a bad back, you know.
NJD wrote: | And, at this point in time, continuing to use the current licensing system feels like it only exists to justify the expenditure needed to create the current system. |
100000000% agree.
NJD wrote: | Trusting training schools to upgrade people, however, introduces a very interesting level of trust. I'd trust my local one, mind, but not everyone operates on the same level. |
Well, quite. We keep hearing about 2 hour CBTs, and that's start to finish, not 2 hours on the road. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 336 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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