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dydey90 |
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dydey90 World Chat Champion
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Posted: 18:52 - 28 May 2018 Post subject: Recommend me a tank bag / luggage |
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Bought this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B076XWBTMB/
It was shit, so small that my lunch barely fit, one of the zips broke and the front pocket ripped. Have now returned it.
What does everybody else use? Not sure a magnetic bag is the way to go, it’s easy to mount but it’s left small scratches in the top of the tank. ____________________ This post is probably not serious and shouldn't be taken literally.
Past: CBR125,ER6f NINJA 650, ZZR600 Current: VFR750 |
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Posted: 06:01 - 29 May 2018 Post subject: |
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I've been using an Oxford 'life-time' two-tier 'magnetic' tank bag for, well... a life-time now! I cant recall the capacity, about 25 litres a tier, I think... never 'really' been an issue. Not really a recommend, though, but 'thunx' on the topic.
As far as capacity is concerned... actually yes, has been a bit of an issue; both tiers fitted dang thing is so tall and bulky, does 'rock', does obscure clocks, and get intrusive.. makes a nice pillow if top tier stuffed with jumper and waterproofs on the m-way, and I've always had more up-righty bikes, I dont think it would work very well on a hunched over sports-bike!
I have tended only to use the bottom tier, and mostly as a day-pack, for stuff like water-proofs, camera, wallet, bottle of pop, sort of 'pocket' stuff, I want 'on the road'.
On a longer haul, top tier has been used, with things like ferry tickets in the bottom, and the top for all the odds-and-sods that wouldn't fit elsewhere, and then left with the tent when I've got where I'm going... bottom tier back to being incidental 'pockets'.
Heavier and bulkier stuff has always gone aft, into preferably panniers, either hard-cases or throw-overs, to try keep weight low down, and stuff like tents has been on the tail or pillion, where a large sports-bag has always been handy, and taken 'big' luggage.
Ie you have to be a bit strategic in what and where you load stuff.
Mag-Mounts? Variously polarizes opinion. They dont 'stick' on now more common plastic tanks, or aluminium. And regardless of the sales blurb, they DO scratch paint.... eventually.
How badly it may scratch paint is a piece of string question; a lot depends on use. Magnets have a habbit of picking up any steel flakes wherever bag is left.. so, in the work-shop where I have been stripping a rusty-frame with a wire wheel on the drill? NOT a great place to store magnetic tank bag! Similarly, dont pull the thing off the tank at the services to get at filler and dump ion the floor to pick up all the iron filings dumped by rusty tranny vans and whatever!
Keep the tabs clean, and be a bit careful to consciously 'lift' the mag-tabs off the tank before you hoik tank bag onto your shoulder, don't 'drag' it off the tank... there, even if no iron filings picked up along the way, normal grit and crud will be stuck between tab and paint and will scratch....
Do this sort of thing a couple of times a day, every day, using the tank bag for change of cloths when commuting, its going to take its toll on the paint.
How secure thee mag? Does depend a lot on tank shape. My old oxford came with hook-straps that doubled in over the mag-tabs, for where tanks were't magnetic enough, or couldn't get purchase on slope.. useful if more awkward. Ultimately, though, tank is twixt your arms, once fitted more likely you will knock it off than it will fall off or blow off, though on a couple of very awkward shaped peanutie cruisery tanks I have resorted to a cargo net over the top to hold a tank-bag in place....otherwise 'normally secure enough, on the mags alone.
And on... the answer I think, is ultimately just so circumstance dependent.. there's NO ideal 'luggage' for a bike, let alone ideal tank-bag! It aint a car, you cant just randomly throw chit 'in' you have to throw it 'on' and with care.
For every-day commuting... hinted at with mention of lunch.... old fashioned top-box has always worked well, and 'almost' like a car. Carrier bag of the stuff you want to carry, like lunch, in the top-box. Bolted down, its as secure as it can be, its as dry as you are like to get,it just works. Get to work, open box, grab carrier bag, dump in lid and maybe water-proofs, shut, lock, job-jobbed. No hassle with mag mounts, nothing twixt arms, nothing to spoil view of speedo, nothing to shift at the petrol station, no extra scratches to paint-work... and you don't have to have these 'niggles' each and every day, twice a day.... and tank-bag is then there, if needed for 'occassional' use, to take the 'pocket' stuff, like wallet and ferry tickets or MP3 player for the motorway!
It comes down I think to that strategy, of not the 'best' bag, but the best 'solution' and that depends on the job, and what you hope to do, and what may work for one, might not work for you, and vica-versa...
So the real question is not what tank-bag, but is a tank bag, ANY tank-bag the best way to be going?
Go on... moan about how a top box ruins the 'looks' of the bike....... I dare you! lol. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Posted: 08:09 - 29 May 2018 Post subject: |
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I have one of the quick-lock evo tank bags from Swmotech.
Small horseshoe shape that bolts to your fuel cap ring, that stays on the bike, then the bag clips on and off that ring. Keeps it about half a cm off the tank, so will never scratch and is made of a semi rigid material so doesn't flap around. I got the Yukon 90 model, just about big enough for your lunch, pair of sunglasses and spare gloves, but they do make bigger ones. Was expensive, but is made of that rubberised canvas stuff so it's basically waterproof.
Currently sat in the shed as the NC doesn't have a normal tank ____________________ NC700x. |
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Posted: 09:39 - 29 May 2018 Post subject: |
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Top box > tail bag > panniers > tank bag, in that order.
A big 2-helmet generic (e.g. Lextek) top box looks spacky but works well, especially with solid mounts - on my Nazi Tractor there are solid mount points built into the rear subframe, no need to perch it out on some flimsy rack.
A tail bag on the pillion seat can take loads of weight and no, it's not going to just fall off with any sort of reasonable strapping arrangement. Or even unreasonable, I run a couple of long cable ties down the pillion footpegs on the Ninja, it's not going anywhere.
Panniers depend on the bike. Small leather panniers on a dedicated rack work well on my Enfield. 8' wide Touratechs on a big GS, well, high chance of them containing nothing but a Touratech catalogue.
The tank bag is the last thing that goes on, and only for touring, not day-to-day. I have a Lidl special "B-Square" expandable magnetic tank bag that actually works very well, but as you say, scratchy scratchy unless you keep the fabric scrupulously clean, and/or throw something under it. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Posted: 11:06 - 29 May 2018 Post subject: |
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UncleBFester wrote: | I hate how it obscures the view of the clocks, it gets in the way of the bars at full lock |
So that's the wrong tankbag for your setup then - mine does neither
doggone wrote: | Just got the similar givi tanklock and 5 litre bag.
The system works well, having the ring thing on your tank all the time isn't ideal, however it's only a five minute job to unscrew. |
Um, doesn't unscrewing the ring kind of defeat the purpose of the whole quick-release thing...!? I have one permanently fitted despite not using the tankbag all that much; I can't say it really bothers me.
I only really use one when touring, but what I do like about a tank bag is that the contents are right there in front of you, accessible without having to dismount. To me it's like the car glove box or a woman's handbag; it will hold stuff like maps, camera, passport, valuables, water bottle; and being a tanklock job and with a shoulder strap, readily comes off the bike to be taken in to cafes or for sight seeing etc. ____________________ KC100->CB100N->CB250RS--------->DL650AL2->R1200RS->R1250RS |
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Posted: 13:16 - 29 May 2018 Post subject: |
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Freddyfruitbat wrote: | To me it's like the car glove box or a woman's handbag; it will hold stuff like maps, camera, passport, valuables, water bottle; and being a tanklock job and with a shoulder strap, readily comes off the bike to be taken in to cafes or for sight seeing etc. |
That's exactly it... unfortunately the analogy is a little too apt, in my case... or bag..... as the one I got twenty odd years ago, I got 'cheap' ex-display..... 'cos red looked fantastic in the shop... but most folk preferred black..... and it's now sort of faded... to err... yeah... LOOK when I put the top tier on and open it you can see, it IS RED.. OK, WAS red.... OK.. I give up... you got me... it's pink! lol!
Ooooh! add on edit! MAPS... yeah... fantastic inventions... map-pockets on the top of tank bags come close second..... UNTIL...... some-one invents a Garmin!!! Now.. Snowie stufs sat-nav into the top of tank-bag... on peanut tank cruiser.... where bag is want to wobble and move... and satnav in map pocket even more so.....
Do you all remember the "Help, come get me!" Phone call anecdote, when asking Snowie where she was I was helpfully informed "At the top of a hill!" and mentioning that SHE had the GPS on her, was met with the retort "Look... if I KNEW where I was! I WOULDN'T need you to come find me! WOULD I!"
Think women Navigators, holding map-upside down.... NOW add the consternation of a GPS in tank-bag map pocket bouncing itself into any orientation it feels like!!!! ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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In fairness, for a packed lunch, I most often use the plastic shopping bag I bought it in with the handles knotted together. I then bungee it to the rack/back seat. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 158 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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