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Posted: 12:03 - 06 Jun 2018 Post subject: Where do you store your bike chain and/or disc locks? |
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Hi All,
I am sure this has been discussed before but bearing in mind the shit storm of theft in London over the past year I assume maybe some of us are a bit more careful these days when it comes to securing our bikes.
The obvious problem with carrying extra security devices is weight. Previously I was quite blasé about security and parked my bike near my office in a manned underground parking lot with cctv and used just a disc lock.
These days I am lugging a 16mm Almax chain and Squire lock in a Kriega tail pack on the pillion seat. I have wondered if a top box would be a better approach as there is likely to be less faffing about. Or is lugging around a 16mm chain an OTT reaction to what one reads about bike theft these days?
Just curious to know if you use a top box or tail pack or your backpack to store your chains and locks |
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P. Red Rocket
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Posted: 12:14 - 06 Jun 2018 Post subject: |
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Can you not leave it at work and attach there?
I've got a 16mm and a 19mm now holding my bike to the floor with 2x30W LED floodlights and 2 CCTV cameras both on different power supplies and 2 different networks watching my bike, no its probably not overkill to carry that, however I'd be looking at 1m max and just locking the wheel to a pole or even just looping through the wheel. 1.5m 19mm is heavy as shit. |
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Ste Not Work Safe
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Posted: 12:19 - 06 Jun 2018 Post subject: |
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What bike?
16mm Almax isn't overkill.
Killing all bike thieves isn't overkill.
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Posted: 14:13 - 06 Jun 2018 Post subject: |
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GSXR1000 in Londonistan?
Bad news I'm afraid, your bike was stolen about half an hour ago.
The best security is to park next to a more desirable bike that's got less security than you.
Do bikelife bother with supergluing chains that are left overnight? In the time it would take them to do that, they could just as easily bikejack someone at the nearest set of traffic lights. |
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Posted: 15:15 - 06 Jun 2018 Post subject: |
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Store, or carry? To store, is to find home for something when not in use. Lock and chain are normally 'in-use' tying bike to ground anchor, hence no need to store, except when bike is moving... then its a case of carrying, on the bike. In which case its in the throw-overs; to keep CofG low and stop it shifting about too much.
Used to use a top-box, and the base is all scored and dented to heck from having the chain rattling around in it, despite being packed with wet-weathers and even tied to the hold-down strap. Plus, weight is high, and behind back wheel axle, does little to help 'balence'.
End of the day though.... I tend not to 'carry' the hefty chain about very often.. that stays home on the ground-anchor.
Bike doesn't get used for commuting, so isn't left unattended for long periods in the same parking space, day after day, to be spotted and ear-marked by scroat... which is 2nd most likely theft scenario... first is from home, where it likely spends most hours, and tea-leaf can pick and choose time to take,to take thier time.
Out and about... an Almax is rather unweildy and a bit of over-kill to detur the oportunist outside ASDA. A Disc-Lock migh give one pause for thought, but wont hamper man-with-a-van for many moments, so for portability I tend to use a disc-lock.. something a tad more substantial than the monkey-metal things off e-bay, BTW, with a 10mm cable round a convenient lamp-post or railing etc, latched by the Discie as padlock.
Not exactly high security, but bikes old and uncommon, and not exactly at the top of the most-wanted list in the breakers cos of the price of its plastics...
But oportunist isn't going to wheel it away or lift in the back of van too quick... And if some-one turns up tooled up to cut cable or lock, with bolt-croppers or CO2 angry grinder... then the few extra seconds it would take them to get through a case hardened chain... when they would, probably be savvy enough not to bother, and attack the council railings instead... wont make all that much odds to the matter.... especially if they have all day in a secluded car-park, and can pretend to be legit workman looking at the lighting, if any-one comes along.... let alone dares challenge them....
Gixxer, for commuting? To be left unattended day-in-day-out, in public view, for hours at a time?
PERSONALLY, given the cost of squared off tyres and oil changes, and cramp in the wrists....trying to use such a device in such tortiouse manner, A-N-D suffer the neurosis of whether it would still be where I left it and knock-off time.... I would be thinking along the lines of a beaten up old ER5 or something, with a small top-box for mi-sarnies.... paid for probably by taking "+Commuting" off the Gixxer insurance policy, plus the savings on squared off rubber, and stretched chains and hooked sprockets, and a £20 note tucked in the back of the AA card to call for a taxi IF the thing got nicked.... Not have the paranoia of wondering whether it would still be there, and a lot less risk it wouldn't....
...or the sore writs, or the fun-blunting of coming to take it out at the week-end 'for fun' and have to spend half the morning catching up on maintenance, and then be holding back on bends cos of the 'funny-handling' caused by corners on the rubber, or the slop in the gear-change from a slack elastic chain, and however many thousand miles of up and down the box thrashing twixt traffic lights taking the 'shine' off the 'performance' that sort of bike is supposed to all be about....
Might even make me wonder just what I kept the thing around for at all, when it was sat out-side, not doing much, costing tax, costing insurance, and only getting taken out when the sun-shone, and time allowed.... and for the 'fun' of tearing around in circles not actually going anywhere pretending to be a racer... how much I might save cancelling the tax and insurance altogether, swapping factory plastics for cheapo Chinky after-market affairs, not having to have an MOT and doing a few track-days each year... where, for the price of even MY old-duffer insurance, I could get as many hours sadle time and as many miles of unadulterated full on 'fun', not having to worry about SMIDSY or GATSO, and a sheet of official lap-times to prove how 'slow' I went, rather than, well, what, tear-arseing around on the road?
But that's my sort of thinking on the topic.... ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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I'm surprised that you can even get insurance for a GSX-R1000 in the Sarf East.
At some point, insurers are going to be more interested in where bikes are left during the day than at night. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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sickpup wrote: | Teflon-Mike wrote: | CO2 angry grinder |
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Seldom used to cut an 'angle' for welding, far more often used 'cos rusty effin cheappo, chit stuiffin bolt has rounded or crappy bastid bludy bit of metal something is bolted through bends and twists rather than reacts undoing torque, until in pique, angry grinder reached for, 'cos angry!!!!
CO2 used to be preffered as denser than air, so more portable power could be carries running one off a sparklets bulb or 2lb reservoir filled with welding gas, than any lith-ion rechargeable electric, in the absence of a van. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Oxford chain!!!!!!!! ____________________ Elen sila lummen omentielvo! |
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