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arry wrote: | Guido wrote: |
I love the the riding positions of sports bikes and some sports tourers |
What sports bikes or tourers have you ridden to make that assumption, and what other types of bike have you experience of to compare them to?
If you mean theoretically you do - just brace yourself for the actual as you may not like it as much as you think. |
So much that.
You may like looking at some chap wiggling his leather clad rump in the air, but being that chap might not be the experience you imagine it to be.
And no, just sitting on one in a showroom doesn't let you experience what it's like while riding. High arse, high feet, low narrow bars is designed for minimising wind resistance, keeping the front wheel down, and tipping the bike right the way over on fresh race tyres on a dry race track.
On a short commute on 3rd world UK roads in traffic, it's awful, just awful. It's homophobic, is what it is, it hates homo sapiens. Get something designed to fit humans, rather than something that forces humans to fit it.
TERRABAD:
https://i.imgur.com/jCjbniI.png
ALMOST FIT FOR HUMANS:
https://i.imgur.com/TOqTdHF.png ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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fireyphoenix1... Brolly Dolly
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CC argument is bollocks.Usually spouted by the summer fairy A-road nobbers.
The bikes style and skill of the rider is FAR more important.
I ride an SXV750, one of my friends rides a CRF-450 SM another a Monster 900.The least powerful bike in my lot is a DRZ400SM the most powerful an Bandit 1200 turbo.
Real world riding, all are mostly the same. Some pull harder, but none ever gets left behind by the others.
Mostly as riders are usually the biggest limiting factor.
Ride what YOU want to. Ignore everyone else.
Personally i would say CB500 or SV650 for first bike. Both are comfy, quick and very easy to ride. Neither is fast, but you dont want a fast bike until you learn how to ride properly which can only happen but riding a lot . ____________________ 2014 Aprillia dorsoduro 750 factory. |
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sometimes a smaller bike will keep up better in twistys.. just suck on straights or if you lose too much speed...
my car isnt the biggest engine but i absolutely abused an audi tt through twisties the other night, he overtook me and left me on the straight before the bends, i ended up pulling over a few miles up the road and watched him fly past, i guess still trying to chase me.
then again.. rsv 1100 tuono factory ____________________ Fin: no matter how much I look at It I can't understand what was going through my head, all I remember is going about 80 and redlining it to stop it seizing.
360 Deg... Five 1/4 turns. :- Teflon-Mike 18 Jan 2015 |
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i miss my old 125 2 stroke fun times ____________________ Fin: no matter how much I look at It I can't understand what was going through my head, all I remember is going about 80 and redlining it to stop it seizing.
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stevo as b4 wrote: | Forget suggesting two strokes to OP or new riders. They were a thing for some of us, and fun and the time or again now in some cases. The world moved on though, and for whatever reasons (emissions legislation mainly) there's been a different path of development for 20-25years.
Look at Diesel cars. Who'd have thought 10years ago that they'd be penalised and taxed to the point of influenceing manufacturers to stop making them or change to other fuels etc. Will you all be harping on in 20years to new drivers saying you should buy an old diesel car as they were brilliant and you can't get them now? |
Stevo, whilst I appreciate your input to the forum, sometimes you sail right past the point, go all the way around the world and end up near where you started!
I'm not suggesting people start on two strokes, I'm suggesting that they are (somewhat necessarily) missing out on the small capacity phase that we all had as teenagers. Going straight to a 70bhp 650 is normal these days, but back in the eighties or early to mid nineties, that would be unheard of, and perhaps even laughed at a bit. Although pre-33bhp law there was a lot of going straight from a 125 to a GSXR1100 or something... Even so, if I had to choose between a decent two stroke 125 and a Gladius 650, I'm not 100% sure which one I'd go for. If it was a two stroke 250 vs a Gladius 650... no contest. I'd be riding away in a massive cloud of smoke before you could say 'pre-mix'. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
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stevo as b4 wrote: | I get the whole riders coming in today are forced up a blind alley, often having to take tests on bikes over a silly set capacity to get a licence that only allows them to ride either boringly emasculated big bikes and then only within limits of cc and original power. Or A2 very weak watered down class fitters that offer style and electronics but nothing to get excited over and lack both character of the old bikes you mentioned, as well as budget spec materials and build quality.
No there's nothing really to get excited over, but maybe they'll never sell enough beginners bikes to care? That's how the bike world is today.
As a counter point to your last bike comparison, how about if you were offered a Gladius engine in a nice light alloy trellis frame like the gen1 SV had, but lighter, sharper and with Fireblade spec levels of brakes, suspension and build quality at a Gladius price? The old smoker might not be the best real world option then? |
Yeah, maybe... That does already exist though, it's called the MT07SP. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
Remember kids, bikes aren't like lego. You can't easily take a part from one bike and then fit it to another. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 313 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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