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Feasty
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PostPosted: 09:05 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Lowered, is it worrying if the back wheel is bottoming out? Reply with quote

Had my F650 for 3 weeks now and only just realised it's been lowered, makes sense I suppose - previous owner was a woman... Whereas I'm 6'2 and heavy!

I can feel it bottoming out a bit on the bumps, not hitting the floor or anything - just at the bottom of the shock range I guess. However I've just discovered the back tyre is actually hitting the underneath of the rear mudguard...

I'm thinking this might be dangerous!? Shocked Thoughts?
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PostPosted: 09:12 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it lowered or is it the LOW version ? (not good for taller or haver riders)
If it is lowered I try to see what was done and put it back to standard
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PostPosted: 09:16 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried increasing the preload on the shock for a start?
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PostPosted: 09:23 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Er, yes, that's not great.

+1 to what F650 version, and how low are we talking? My F650GS twin is (I believe) the factory low-low version, which (again, on belief) has a shorter rear spring and front forks.

If it's that version, and you've already dialled up the pre-load, then you be looking at changing to a stock shock and forks, which I'd hesitate to do.
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PostPosted: 09:32 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure if it's factory lowered or not. It's a '98 Funduro, I've been told you can tell it's been lowered as the forks stick out at the top and the bars could be made to be higher...

Never done pre-load adjustment before, I'll have a look and see what I can do...
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feasty wrote:
I've been told you can tell it's been lowered as the forks stick out at the top and the bars could be made to be higher...

Oh, right, that sounds like it's been owner lowered. You can easily enough raise the front just be dropping the forks down to where BMW intended them to be, but Allan knows what's been done on the rear.

https://faq.f650.com/FAQs/LoweringKitFAQ.htm suggests that you're likely to find longer linkages on the rear shock. I'd expect that to be the case, and that nothing's been done to limit its travel, thus the grounding.

If it's a case of finding stock rear links, it might be worth doing - you can sell the lowering links on to offset the cost.
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PostPosted: 11:36 - 19 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feasty wrote:
I'm not sure if it's factory lowered or not. It's a '98 Funduro, I've been told you can tell it's been lowered as the forks stick out at the top and the bars could be made to be higher...

Never done pre-load adjustment before, I'll have a look and see what I can do...


The preload suggestion is really just to get you sorted until you can replace the links with standard ones. You really don't want the tyre coming into contact with parts of the bike if you can prevent it.
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Feasty
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 21 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed with that Islander! Shocked

I've had a bit more of a look, removed the panels and seen where I need to adjust the shock whilst also checking out if the exhaust has a hole - related to my other post - 'Should I be hearing this...'.

It looks like there is very little limiting in the shock at all, and in fact the exhaust is leaking at a connection where it appears that when the bike is bottoming out, the chain is catching on the exhaust and pulled it out slightly.
Thankfully there is no lasting damage, I just need to re-tighten the fitting over this connection. Lucky me!

I'm not riding the bike now till at least it can't bottom out so low anymore, and I'll be looking for those links Thumbs Up
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(7 year gap), BMW F650 (Relaxing ride). Aprilia Caponord ETV1000 (Big and bold). Yamaha FZS600 (got me in trouble too quick!).
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