Cheap way to make bike hard to steal?

[adam277]

I'm getting a bike this week so I was hoping on advice to keep it secure.

My plan is DISC LOCK - £10
Chunky Chain - £30? - I'd like a recommendation on this because everytime I buy a chain in the past the key gradually gets worn out which causes issue.
Ground Anchor cemented into the ground - £20-30


That is my plan so far I don't really want to go over £100.
For practical reasons I have to park my bike on the drive so people will be able to see it, so it has to be somewhat secure.

I'm also reluctant to get an alarmed disk lock (think i may have one lying about somewhere) as they can be a bit to temperamental.

Edit: My bike is going to be worth about £1000 if that helps.
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Current Bike: Honda CBF 125: current

[Ste]

What bike and where in the UK?

An Almax chain or Pragmasis chain is over budget but is a good investment.

[NJD]

Might want to update signature or tell us what bike then because..

[adam277]

I haven't got the bike yet but either a ybr or cb500 or similar basically a cheap hack.

How much do you think I should spend on security?
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Current Bike: Honda CBF 125: current

[Ste]

Where in the UK are you?

[NJD]

[adam277]

Basildon essex
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Current Bike: Honda CBF 125: current

[Ste]

19mm+ Almax or Pragmasis chain with a squire lock and an appropriate ground anchor. It's enough to put off tooled up opportunists who haven't got angle grinders. I'd hope that those with angle grinders will have their sights set on more valuable bikes than yours.

The security is an investment.

[johnsmith222]

I would get:

Kryptonite new york disc lock £40 x 2 (front disc and rear sprocket)
Almax series 3 16mm chain and squire padlock (£150ish) (a series 4 or bigger would be better for Essex I would think though).
A bike cover.

A £10 disc lock isn't going to cut it unfortunately. The only time I support a disc lock that cheap, is if it's the only one that will fit (like the xena x2 on my rear disc. (but I also lock the rear sprocket)

It might seem overkill, but it means they need to make a fair few cuts before it's ridable. Even if you have a grinder or 3, why do that when you can lift the other bikes that are about?

[stevo as b4]

Either a fuck off loud alarm that goes off if your bike is moved a mm, in the hope it scares away the thief or if not gives you time to wake up and tool up.

Or you could go the other way with a silent alarm/baby monitor if your feeling wide awake and ready at all times (but mostly night) to go out all stealthy and sneek up on your bikes attackers.

If neither of the above sound plausible or ideal for you, then your better off booby trapping the bike every night or rigging up a folding electric fence connected to a mains supply.

Only real way to prevent someone taking your bike away if they really want it is the 3 'D's
1, Disarm
2, Disable
3, De-motivate

You could add De-cappitate to this, but I don't think you'll get away with chopping up too many theives before you get caught and sentenced to a good long stretch. If going this route I'd suggest being as brutal and savage as your imagination will allow, as if your going to get put away in a cell, you might as well go down being known as a right fucking animal not an accidental murderer.

[adam277]

I get the logic in buying expensive chains as you can use them once you get a more expensive bike.

I cant justify the cost of £250+ though upfront. If they want it bad enough they can have it. My job is just to make my bike more hassle then someone else's.

Also double disclock? I did that before along with a chain and it got tedious fast. Especially when your doing it 3/4 times a day.


So basically it's get a big Fuck off chain or don't bother?
I mean this is potentially a rusty ybr that's been dropped a few times we are talking about not a fireblade.
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Current Bike: Honda CBF 125: current

[mentalboy]

[johnsmith222]

[c_dug]

I'd have a single 16mm+ chain from Almax (or Pragmasis) on it's own over a cheap disc lock and chain from, say, Oxford. In fact that's exactly what I did.

My logic is that you can get a cheap chain off with croppers, and many disc locks off with levers or hammers. I've done both for legitimate reasons before. Both can be done fairly quickly, but also near silently.

Nobody is getting through an Almax without an angle grinder. That's like having an alarm that only ever goes off when it's a legitimate theft attempt.

You can always add more security at a later date. I've now got a cheap alarmed lock through my sprocket, just as a visual deterrent really (I don't think there's a battery in the alarm). This is on a bike I never ride though, so multiple locks isn't so much an issue for me. I'd lose patience if I ever ride it regularly again and would resort back to chain alone.
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[Rogerborg]

Buy a couple of metres of 16mm (or larger) anchor or lift chain. Much cheaper than Almax or Pragmasis, probably not croppable, will take a few seconds less to go through with an angle grinder. A patient and industrious person could probably hacksaw through it, which rules out that method for pikies.

Spend the savings on a crossbow. They were coming right for you.

If you're not prepared to murderkill a pikey, what do you imagine you'll do during the extra few seconds that an Almax or Pragmassis will give you? Fvcks given by tooled up career pikies are approaching zero.
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[BusterGonads]

[Wheezybiker]

double disclock? I did that before along with a chain and it got tedious fast. Especially when your doing it 3/4 times a day.


Not as tedious as walking in motorbike gear as some fcuker has stolen your bike.

I have a 16mm chain and a disclock which are used every time I lock the bike when away from home
At home 16mm chain and disc lock and 1 10mm chain and disc lock plus 2 ground anchors and a cover.
Drive blocked off with sons car

Unlocking chains and locks takes a few seconds each just have to plan journeys and factor in slightly extra time needed

If they want my bike they are gonna have to work for it

[Ste]

[arry]

[RhynoCZ]

Paint it all bright pink.
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[Rogerborg]

[Jmoan]

[Vracktal]

This was put to Facebook a while ago - re-using an Abus car steering lock through the rear sprocket of a motorbike

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/35481893_2074432772804259_528504603470200832_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=AeFBU4NKZr_A8DBKvr9yCyEcDdi51stAAuOQQLVLxO2VZKwEKyHwVZQrxXPoyt9CWSm2j7Riz9TTSNXdvHTl8bBaEb_k7alimbptgTzzT0uP9w&oh=fa6ff75cebde33bd0fb697e67f0ca154&oe=5BA5876C

Bit of research suggests it's called an Abus Carblock 73.
https://img.tradera.net/images/142/274724142_5e99dfa4-4ee1-4f39-a7b8-161c9c1db433.jpg

The two loops just happen to line up with the holes in his sprocket though, so I imagine it won't work for every bike. I'd probably turn it the other way as well, so the handle couldn't be used as a lever but on the face of it it seems like a good idea.
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[stevo as b4]

Ingenious, but IMHO I don't see what (access permitting) that a D-lock through the Swingarm and a rear wheel spoke does not do better?

[Ste]

I'd say a D lock is easier to crop or cut than a steering lock that's through the rear sprocket.

"fuck that, let's go and find one that's easier to steal"

Or using a steering lock like that could just be a reason to carry something which could very easily be used as a weapon.