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- Super Spammer
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Posted: 15:19 - 03 Jul 2018 Post subject: |
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They're blocking the pavement for anyone and everyone. |
True, but pavements are purely for pedestrians, not cyclists.
I keep out of cycle lanes when walking, but won't make way for a cyclist who should be on the road anyway.
A bit of consideration works both ways. I'm considerate of cyclists and give them plenty of room, but I also expect the same consideration back.
Lets not forget that most drivers ride a cycle too, most cyclists also drive and a lot of pedestrians regularly do both. Courtesy works all ways.
I hope that self righteous prick never breaks any rules of the road, you know, like jumping red lights or using pavements. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Apart from the ones where some genius has decided to paint a line down the middle to make half of it into a cycle lane. |
That's a cycle lane, not a pavement. I make sure I don;t walk in the cycle part.
Ste wrote: | Yes, a bit of consideration does work both ways. I'm quite happy to cut pavement cyclists some slack if they're slowing right down as approaching pedestrians. If they're bikelife junior dickheads then I'm not giving them any extra space. |
My cut off age for acceptable pavement cycling is around 13. Anyone older can do one if they think I'm getting out of the way to let a cycle past on the pavement.
Ste wrote: | I'm sure you never break any rules of the roads. |
I obey red lights, one way streets on cycle, car or motorcycle, and do not use pavements for anything but walking.
I may occasionally speed where I think it's appropriate, but keep a clear eye out for danger, so have only ever been nicked once in almost 30 years and hundreds of thousands of miles.
Unfortunately, policing of rules of the roads now, seems to be more done by camera than police presence, so some cyclists especially are becoming more brazen with their disregard for the rules of the road. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Posted: 17:23 - 03 Jul 2018 Post subject: |
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Lines of pedestrians are annoying when you're walking in the opposite direction or when approaching from behind and want to overtake. They're engrossed in their conversation and oblivious to anything going on around them.
Cycles lanes on the whole are crap and it's much faster and easier to cycle on the road. On narrow country lanes and such like, the easiest thing to do is to just let traffic overtake, I'm much happier if there isn't a car behind me with a driver who might be getting increasingly irate.
Under 13 sounds about right for pavement cycling. If adults want to pavement cycle as much as I disapprove of it, if they slow right down and give way to pedestrians then that's acceptable enough.
By occasionally speeding where you think it's appropriate, that could be interrupted as speeding where you think you can get away with it.
When cycling, it's safer for the cyclist and easier for cars wanting to overtake if cyclists are passed the traffic islands before those cars are trying to overtake. I'm not talking about blinding cycling through a red light and expecting everyone else to not run you over, you have to choose your moment carefully. It's more about making it easier for cars to overtake on the other side of the lights than it is about me gaining a small amount of time. |
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Posted: 18:05 - 03 Jul 2018 Post subject: |
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Ste wrote: | Lines of pedestrians are annoying when you're walking in the opposite direction or when approaching from behind and want to overtake. They're engrossed in their conversation and oblivious to anything going on around them.
Cycles lanes on the whole are crap and it's much faster and easier to cycle on the road. On narrow country lanes and such like, the easiest thing to do is to just let traffic overtake, I'm much happier if there isn't a car behind me with a driver who might be getting increasingly irate.
Under 13 sounds about right for pavement cycling. If adults want to pavement cycle as much as I disapprove of it, if they slow right down and give way to pedestrians then that's acceptable enough.
By occasionally speeding where you think it's appropriate, that could be interrupted as speeding where you think you can get away with it.
When cycling, it's safer for the cyclist and easier for cars wanting to overtake if cyclists are passed the traffic islands before those cars are trying to overtake. I'm not talking about blinding cycling through a red light and expecting everyone else to not run you over, you have to choose your moment carefully. It's more about making it easier for cars to overtake on the other side of the lights than it is about me gaining a small amount of time. |
What can be done about those morons who stop to chat to each other on the pavement with no consideration whatsoever for other pavement users?
It's a disgrace. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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Lot of inconsiderate cyclists round here who do ride two abreast on single track roads, effectively making it impossible to leave a safe distance when overtaking. Where it would be possible if they were single file. They then tut and shake their heads when they get covered in a cloud of dust from me putting two wheels on the right hand verge to avoid clipping them with a mirror.
The most annoying one is when they get together in huge groups of maybe 20 or more cycle lengths and ride along twisty fell roads in the Lakes, making it totally impossible for anyone to overtake safely. If you had a motor vehicle that long, it would need a police escort.
Triathletes are more considerate, no draughting rules means they must keep a 12 bike length gap unless passing. Other cyclists could take notice. There should be a maximum permissable pack size unless it is an official race with approval from the police/local authority.
Riding two abreast on a single track road probably does fulfill the legal test for inconsiderate cycling, assuming you take the same legal guidelines as they use for incinsiderate driving (and they do use the same test for dangerous and careless cycling).. (RTA 1988, part 1, section 29).
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 298 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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