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PostPosted: 13:23 - 29 Jun 2018    Post subject: Old law on passing cyclists Reply with quote

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https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/6654347/drive-too-close-cyclists-three-points-licence-fine-new-laws/amp/


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PostPosted: 13:32 - 29 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's not a new law.

The Times article the Shitrag links to says:

"Drivers who pass too close to cyclists will be targeted for fines from today amid concerns that they are discouraging people from getting on their bikes.

Police forces will be encouraged to use powers to punish motorists who intimidate cyclists by failing to give them enough space.

In some areas forces have already imposed £100 fines and three penalty points for careless driving when passing less than 1.5m from bike"

inb4 fines for cyclists (pedal and motor) who pass cars with 1.5 meters. Shocked
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 29 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Further down the article "The operation, launched in September 2016".
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PostPosted: 13:43 - 29 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just inconsiderate driving. Dredd has been able to dispose of that by FPN since 2013. All that's changed is that some faceless unaccountable back office wonk has chosen 1.5m as a magic number for FPN purposes.

That doesn't mean that you'd be prosecuted if you laugh it off, and certainly doesn't mean that you'll be convicted.

FWIW, I give pedalists as much room as possible by default, and I mean I'll go all the way to the right hand kerb unless there's something stopping me.

But if I see a pedalist riding to their own interpretation of road traffic laws, I'll cheerfully overtake them through any gap, on either side of them.
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PostPosted: 04:46 - 30 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

This recently landed in Australia. Fucking gay as you like... Now these cunts ride two abreast and moan when you pass them.

Thankfully I drive a fuelled and boosted diesel.
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 30 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsprattuk wrote:
This recently landed in Australia. Fucking gay as you like... Now these cunts ride two abreast and moan when you pass them.

Thankfully I drive a fuelled and boosted diesel.


You need to understand the science of riding two abreast and why it is allowed.

Two bikes in sigle file take up more 'passing distance' than a car. So overtakes are more dangerous due to the time the overtaking vehicle is on the wrong side of the road.

Two abreast uses much less 'passing distance' than a car.

I wish those fekless twats who ride HDs in convoy would do the same. Smile
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 01 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
You need to understand the science of riding two abreast and why it is allowed.

Is riding three abreast prohibited?
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 01 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Highway code says you should never ride more than two abreast but I can't be bothered to find the relevant piece of legislation. Razz
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PostPosted: 07:09 - 02 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Highway code says you should

Is it prohibited?
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 02 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
mattsprattuk wrote:
This recently landed in Australia. Fucking gay as you like... Now these cunts ride two abreast and moan when you pass them.

Thankfully I drive a fuelled and boosted diesel.


You need to understand the science of riding two abreast and why it is allowed.

Two bikes in sigle file take up more 'passing distance' than a car. So overtakes are more dangerous due to the time the overtaking vehicle is on the wrong side of the road.

Two abreast uses much less 'passing distance' than a car.

I wish those fekless twats who ride HDs in convoy would do the same. Smile


Which is fine on a wide road, but a clearly deliberate two fingers at motorists when they do it on single track roads.

There are knobheads on both sides here, cyclists are often worse than the motorists for being deliberately inconsiderate.
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 02 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Ste wrote:
Highway code says you should

Is it prohibited?

Reeeeeeeeeeee
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 02 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
Which is fine on a wide road, but a clearly deliberate two fingers at motorists when they do it on single track roads.

There are knobheads on both sides here, cyclists are often worse than the motorists for being deliberately inconsiderate.


What part are you struggling with?

The narrow roads where you must drive with more care or the physics bit where you need some agility with numburz?

Smile

Cyclists two abreast is no where near as bad as the fcuk-nuggets who jump lights.

And anyway if you are in a big rush do not use narrow roads. Smile
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 02 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Ste wrote:
Highway code says you should

Is it prohibited?

Unless you or anyone else can show the chapter and verse for the legislation saying you can't then I say it's not specifically prohibited.

If riding two (or more) abreast then you're unlikely to be giving your fellow cyclists the minimum 1.5m of space. Shocked
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 02 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cycle to work along country roads and quite often am passed at over the 50 mile an hour speed limit so close that it nearly puts me in the ditch or they will squeeze past at speed cause they won’t wait so I have taken to riding in the middle of the lane to stop them forcing their way past
There are two areas of solid white lines where cars will still overtake me I even had a car overtake me whilst a second car was overtaking him😠
Blind left hand bend lucky that time but often there are quarry trucks coming in the opposite direction
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PostPosted: 23:43 - 02 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:


Cyclists two abreast is no where near as bad as the fcuk-nuggets who jump lights.

And anyway if you are in a big rush do not use narrow roads. Smile


Two of the dumbest things said. Clearly you're a mamil sympathiser.
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PostPosted: 09:38 - 03 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:

What part are you struggling with?



The part where you can't undersatand that some if your Lycra clad chums can be right inconsiderate cocks too.

Like the bloke yesterday. who I over took approaching some red lights. I was turning left so I indicated to let him know he'd be better off waiting behind me as there was no their traffic about.
Then just as the lights changed, he'd managed to catch me up and the twat undertook me and rode off as slow as he could to stop me from turning left until he decided I could.

There was no need for that. It was a deliberate ploy from another God complex cyclist, just to piss off a car driver. He saw my indicator and knew I was going left as he was going straight on. Why undertake me?

You don't get pedestrians walking 2 or 3 abreast on a single track road to stop cars getting past do you?
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 03 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

The riding off slowly might just have been cos he doesn't understand how to use the gears properly. Razz

You get pedestrians walking two, three, four, etc etc etc abreast taking up the entire width of the pavement and being completely oblivious to anyone else who's using the pavement. Wink
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 03 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
who I over took approaching some red lights.

There's your problem, right there!
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 03 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 12:28 - 03 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
who I over took approaching some red lights.


Sigh I have to agree with stuntman. As much as I despise being stuck behind a cyclist in general...

If he had time to catch you up, then your overtake was unnecessary...

Appreciate you don't always know there is a set of lights ahead, but if the road is straight enough to overtake safely, you should have been able to see them. 👍
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 03 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
The riding off slowly might just have been cos he doesn't understand how to use the gears properly. Razz

You get pedestrians walking two, three, four, etc etc etc abreast taking up the entire width of the pavement and being completely oblivious to anyone else who's using the pavement
. Wink


Maybe they're just trying to piss off cyclists? Razz
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 03 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

UnknownStuntman wrote:
mpd72 wrote:
who I over took approaching some red lights.

There's your problem, right there!


What? 200 yards before the lights? Ha! Ha! Ha! yeah right.... Rolling Eyes

I'd been stationary for around 20 seconds by the time he caught me then undercut me just to hold me up as the lights changed to green again.
If i'd have been on my cycle and approached one car indicating to turn left, I'd have stayed behind him instead of holding him up, just to be a cunt.

The junction in question has a large pedestrian railed island before the left turn, so there's 20ft or so before the turning. He knew he'd hold me up. It was a deliberate case of small Lycra man syndrome.
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 03 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hawkeye1250FA wrote:
mpd72 wrote:
who I over took approaching some red lights.


Sigh I have to agree with stuntman. As much as I despise being stuck behind a cyclist in general...

If he had time to catch you up, then your overtake was unnecessary...

Appreciate you don't always know there is a set of lights ahead, but if the road is straight enough to overtake safely, you should have been able to see them. 👍


Oh come on. You have no idea on the junction I'm on about. It's a 3 way set of lights. Approaching them on red, you don't know how long you're going to stay at them for. It's quite a long dwell.

I was unlucky Lycra Clad Twat managed to get to me just before they turned green again. He undertook me the moment they turned from red to yellow. It was deliberate, to hold me up. There was nobody else around, he knew I was indicating for his benefit, as I was about to turn left. Luckily for him, I was clocking him in my mirrors, many would have turned left and knocked him off.

Is it OK for cyclist to undertake someone indicating to turn left? Sounds a bit of a daft trick to me. Karma will catch LCC out eventually.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 03 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
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As a road user, you are obliged to consider the safety of all around you... Even if they don't.

Take the higher moral ground and do the job properly and stop razzing on about it. I'd bet for every 1 cyclist who does this kind of thing there are hundreds who don't. Just like for every 1 motorcyclist who shows himself up to being a cnut there are hundreds who don't.
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 03 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Each to their own.

200 yards before any set of lights or roundabout or junction - I would wait behind a cyclist - every time.

No real time gain from overtaking Vs waiting at that distance. And as you found out, once they get back in front they can be real cants about showing you the error if your ways.

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