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Ste Not Work Safe
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My ZX6R needed the engine replacing at about 20k. |
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Previous owner broke it. |
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Thirty odd years ago, annual average car miles were 12,ooo a year. There were around 7 cars for every 10 households, they tended to do everything from take Dad to work every day, do the shopping twice a week (cos no freezers) and everything in and around. Average bike miles were around 8,ooo miles... cos you cant get a lot of shopping on one! But was otherwise used much as every day all round transport.
Curiously, annual average miles of a car over the last 25 years has actually fallen, despite the fact that engineering wise they are now capable of probably double the life-time miles, and not need half a dozen rebores and an annual de-coke in it! As car ownership has increased and there are now almost two cars per household, sharing duties.
The UK bike, in the 1970's almost had an extinction event in the 1970's as far as the numbers went; though numbers almost doubled in the 90's and more than doubled in the naughties; BUT stats show that motorcycles, on mass, still average barely 1% of annual private road miles in the UK.
Most significant factors in this is the tax-the-motorist poilicies of government over recent years, and high fuel prices and high insurance plus congetion charges etc making them more atractive as a bus-fare beating commuter. Most every-day bikes though are 125 learner-legals that account for over half the bikes in the country and probably more than 2/3 all bike miles. Big-Bikes tend to most often be week-end leisure implements, and do few miles twixt MOT's and drag the average down an awful lot.
UK annual average bike miles are now only around 3ooo miles a year.
The every day commuter can easily do double or tripple that or more. A garage queens may do that in one trans-euro tour in a week, but tend to be few, and there are far more than used only on sunny evenings and week-ends are lucky to clock 1ooo miles a year.
So it's very much dependent on the bike, and what type of use its had how many miles may be considered 'big'.
And CONDITION IS ALL!!!
A Pan-Euro or Gold-Wing has basically a car-engine, that can crank up very big miles without eating itself; but... but lack of use is often as easy a killer as over-use; and left dormant for the best part of a year between mamoth excursions, or even a few years; rubber perishes, seals go hard, piston rings rust into piston grooves etc, they can deteriorate as easily without doing miles as with. ZX6R's or GSXR's, sat in a garage for a few weeks between sunny spells, likely don't suffer so much dereliction decay, but make up for it when in that window of sunshine they probably get the knackers thrashed off them, from cold, in the excitement of sun! CG125, ridden every day, may not get left to rot, or thrashed to death, but 'y' cant go wrong with a See-Gee' legend likely sees they never have their tappets checked.
Interesting about the 25K mile remark though; whey-back-when, that was about how long you could expect a Honda Cam-Chain tensioner to last...... and probably wasn't far from true for something like a Honda CB125 or CBX550... but lap of the gods job there any-how!
So Mileage means little to bludger all... its 'car' thinking, where there are so many more of them, so much more closely used in a similar way, by people with similar outlooks and expectations, generalities can more often hold true... Bikes? Such a small sample pool of them to start with, so much greater diversity of uses and expectations, generalities, are screwed by the number of exceptions to prove the rule.
Condition is ALL.
You only need one numpty owner and they can wreck the thing in one mile! That wont show on the odometer... you may spot it in skuffed decals, gaffer taped fairings, or chewed up sump-plug, etc etc etc.... but
Easy enough to swap clocks or turn back miles on an oddo, or 'fake' service receipts, rather harder to fix or hide tell-tale signs of abuse in the actual metal... CONDITION IS ALL look at the actual bike, as hard as the advert and paperwork, and look a lot further than the oddo and frame plate. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?' |
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Had my blade for 9+ years and I'll probably hit 50k miles by next year.
Serviced every year, parts changed as required.. still sweet as a nut
Never understood this whole low mileage thing with bikes.. people quibbling about 10+ year old bikes with over 10k on them, thinking they're past it..
What a load of old bollocks. ____________________ CBR954RR - Daily toy
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chris-red Have you considered a TDM?
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My TDM has about 100k on it ____________________ Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
Skudd:- Perhaps she just thinks you are a window licker and is being nice just in case she becomes another Jill Dando.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 294 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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