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Posted: 22:48 - 07 Jul 2018 Post subject: |
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OP. Wind your road rage in now....Loss of concentration.
You ride your own ride at the speed best for the conditions, you scan, you position yourself for safety and best view.
You survive, you pass test and get a bike that is capable of quick overtakes, saying that there is great satisfaction in reading the road/situation and getting a 125 through traffic whilst lardy tourers and wobbly superbike riders sit and sweat.
Remember that 99% of drivers don't know you exist and won't have a clue why you're ranting at them.
The other 1% of drivers also ride bikes and will be laughing at your waving arms and steaming helmet. ____________________ Diabolical homemade music Bandcamp and Soundcloud
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Posted: 23:46 - 07 Jul 2018 Post subject: Re: Road Advice |
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Get a 7.5t + lorry. Or at least a van.
"Sure, we'll see who does better off if I have to break suddenly." .
If someone obviously wants to go past and there's a safe place to let past, you can always do so.
I do when I'm on 4 wheels; much more for bikes, but often for cars too - especially if driving a van that's got a 50mph speed limit on a derestricted single carriageway, for instance. |
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DirtyT L Plate Warrior
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Posted: 06:20 - 08 Jul 2018 Post subject: Road Advice |
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If you remove the mirrors, you won't spend so much time watching whoever's behind you - you are letting too many of these folks live rent free in your head now.
Acting out in anger on the road is a bad idea (particularly on a bike - you are too vulnerable). I'm sure the police in the UK are as unhappy with road rage as they are here in the US. Get in a row with a 4 wheeler, guess who wins? Years ago, in Germany, I was run off the road by an Audi driver who thought I was too slow (no doubt he noted the Brit plates on my rented bike and decided der Fuhrer needed a win).
If you find that many people are anxious to get by you, let 'em have the road if you can - pull to the left and let them by. Stupid to get pissed over something so trivial (for them and you). ____________________ '02 HD Dyna Wide Glide, '96 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500, '94 Honda CB1000 Big One, '83 Honda CB1100F Super Sport, '82 Honda CB750F Super Sport, '81 Honda CB750K Custom
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Posted: 12:56 - 08 Jul 2018 Post subject: Re: Road Advice |
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You'll be amazed how many of them don't even realise they're doing it. They behave like it's perfectly normal to be all of 3 feet off the motor in front at 40 mph. |
This. Just dumb twats who know no better. I echo advice already given: get past L plates and get something with a bit more oomph. Then you have the added alternative of being able to overtake a few cars until you can put someone behind you that doesn't tailgate. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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It's not just the L-Plates, or the small displacement of bike, if same sensations are engendered in the car too... its just more pronounced on the bike, 'cos there's no box around the rider, and perspective of mirrors makes everything seem closer.
There's an Idiot behind you!
Where?
Every-Chuffin-Where!
You just cant aloways see them! Chalk this one up as a 'win', you spotted them! And get on with life.
People tail-gate... end of. Go stand at the side of any moderately busy road, and try count to two in the time between bonnets.... that's how far from each other rules of the road say they should be.... you wont count to two very often.... almost no-one obeys that rule.
They aren't out to get you, they are just doing what every-one does, mostly playing follow-my-leader driving on the car infront's tail-lamps, not reading the road....
On a bike you are a bit inconvenient; because you only have one tail-lamp... and its not where they expect to see it, and they fixate on your crash-hat instead... which is rather further away than the tail-lamp... so they close the gap a bit.... and then get fazed when your hat dont light up when you brake!
Get used to it....
As said, chuck the mirrors away so you CANT fixate on what's behind you; ride your own road, worry about what YOU should be doing, not any-one else... after all you are the one with an L-Plate.... more likely you are the one not doing so much as right, as they are.
Take a different route to work.... of take the car, or the bus... L-Plates is for 'Learners' to learn how to pass tests, not for folk to ride any-where and everywhere they want dodging them tests....
I dont endorse commuting on L-Plates to start with; IF you have had enough practice to cope with the daily grind on a bike, you damn well aught to have had enough practice to take and pass tests.... so IF you haven't got the confidence you can pass tests yet... what the heck you doing trying to commute?
Stop, take a deep breath.... consider what you are trying to do. IF you are a Learner... go learn... dont try going to work. If you are a daily commuter.... go get the licence.... you can get an A1 for barely an hour of your time and £120, as much as the repeat CBT to carrty on dodging the tests.. THEN you might try tackling the daily commute on a bike... every other damn road user has to pass tests before they go-it-alone, why do you think its such a smart idea to do it other way about?
Remember there's always an idiot behind you... some-where... if you cant get the self control to deal with that, you are NEVER going to have the 'machine control' to ride a motorbike.
It is a confidence issue, and passing tests tends to give a lot of confidcence you are doing the right stuff most of the time... but, if you cant deal with dolts, you let them influence what you do, you are letting THEM take control, not effecting it, and you are an accident looking for a place to happen...
If you cant get a handle on your nervouseness to do that on a motorbike, then this is a much bigger problem, and one you need seek medical help for, not riding advice, other than just get the fuck off teh road before some-one gets hurt.
Your call, really. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Posted: 17:00 - 08 Jul 2018 Post subject: |
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Another +1 for the L plates, When I learn't to drive my dad would leave the plates on his car, he got all sorts of people doing crazy overtakes, beeping horns, tailgating when he drove no differently.
My friend on a 125 gets tailgated often when doing the speed limit or over.
I never had any issues though on L plates
And another +1 for the warming up your tyres move, I do this on a big bike when it's illegal to overtake or a built up area. I find the person in front speeds up as well thinking I'm getting impatient.
If there's oncoming cars then I just wobble the bike side to side, swerving into them can make them feel uneasy, the tailgater almost always backs off, they don't want you falling off and your bike to damage their car. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 265 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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