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I think they're pretty much the same 2000-2006. A couple of changes in 2002 (heavier crank remapped injection/ignition) then radial brakes in 2004.
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chris-red Have you considered a TDM?
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bluezedd wrote: |
I don't actually mind the 6 pots themselves when they're looked after. It's just dealing with ones that need cleaned up is a slog.
Not nearly as bad if you have all the proper tools for pulling pistons, wheel for polishing the pistons, and replacement seals. I tend to reuse my seals though, so that adds a fair bit of time to the job.
Tbh though I'm sure there will be 4 pots that bolt on to the 12R, like there is for the 9R, so I'm not sure I'd actively seek out the radial 4 pot models if they're a grand+ more. |
How much looking after do they require!? My TDM900 with 100k miles on it still has the original front brake seals, and I don't think I have ever popped the pistons fully out. They are clean as anything. I clean them every time I change the pads, and will also clean them if am taking the front wheel off. I have replaced the seals in rear once same deal. ____________________ Well, you know what they say. If you want to save the world, you have to push a few old ladies down the stairs.
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chris-red wrote: | bluezedd wrote: |
I don't actually mind the 6 pots themselves when they're looked after. It's just dealing with ones that need cleaned up is a slog.
Not nearly as bad if you have all the proper tools for pulling pistons, wheel for polishing the pistons, and replacement seals. I tend to reuse my seals though, so that adds a fair bit of time to the job.
Tbh though I'm sure there will be 4 pots that bolt on to the 12R, like there is for the 9R, so I'm not sure I'd actively seek out the radial 4 pot models if they're a grand+ more. |
How much looking after do they require!? My TDM900 with 100k miles on it still has the original front brake seals, and I don't think I have ever popped the pistons fully out. They are clean as anything. I clean them every time I change the pads, and will also clean them if am taking the front wheel off. I have replaced the seals in rear once same deal. |
Realistically I'd say a strip and rebuild at least annually is recommended for the tokico 6 pots. The biggest problem is in the bad weather, and particularly the winter months, they need a lot more upkeep, and need to keep on top of them more.
The seals are also more exposed and prone to getting crud in at the pistons and siezing up.
Biggest issues for me personally are:
having to remove 12 pistons in total rather than 8, polishing these pistons, then cleaning 12 dust seals and 12 piston seals. If they're properly gunked up then it definitely takes a fair bit of time.
trying to pop out 12 pistons all at the same time (I bought a piston puller slide hammer thing last time. Don't know how I'll ever manage without again).
Bleeding can be a hassle for some people, and it has taken time for me in the past. Usually need to bleed at the master cylinder banjo if you're not making progress.
The other issue is if the finish on the pistons are damaged to the point of replacing. If all pistons are in similar condition, then you're looking at the cost of 12 pistons, plus seals etc. |
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I too was full of Tokico 6pot love. An awesome brake when they are working correctly IMO.
I never rode my Tokicos through winter though, and after a wet ride I'd be one of those fools in the garage cleaning and polishing for hours, and using pipe cleaners etc.
Oh and Chris Red, tbh with you the Yamaha TDM was one of its best put together and well built bikes of its range at the time. A cared for 20year old one can still look really nice, and I reckon it'd take 20years to deliberately kill one too.
If I had to own a 12R it'd probably have to be an early one for me, as like lots of Kawasaki's the first years colours are often the best, most subtle and nicest. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 293 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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