Oh FFS

[derillius24]

[NutsyUk]

Just saw this one on MCN and i have to say.... Its not bad looking
https://mcn-images.bauersecure.com/PageFiles/656295/1752x1168/Harley_Streetfighter.jpg
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Yamaha FZ8/Fazer800 (split headlight one) 2014, gingerly getting used to the massive increase in HP and not killing myself in the process! That was easy to get used to.
Kawasaki ER6F 2007 650 Gonna sell as a project bike!
Lexmoto XTR S 125 Sold!

[struan80]

[talkToTheHat]

Classic argument: Power's not important, it's all about torque

Newtonian Physics:
Torque x Angular speed = Power
Torque x RPM x constant = Power


Maths:
Torque(Nm) x RPM x 0.105 = Power(kW)
1 RPM = 2 x pi / 60 = 0.105 radians/second
1Nm = 0.738 ft.lbs
1kW=1.34bhp
Torque (ft.lbs) x RPM x 0.0578 = Power(bhp)


100kg of me and a 1m breaker bar: 981Nm torque.
RPM: fractional
Endurance at peak power: laughable

"Built for torque not power" = "has no power"

It's not that hard to find the power putput of a HD, in the US it's required for the EPA submissions, and I assume in europe it's required for similar official paperwork. A quick google gets results from trustworthy sources or at least MCN.

Ironicly, the 750 street rod makes a whopping 69bhp which in a 234kg bike is definately not sportsbike territory but is probably a laugh. Not Face-meltingly fast, but enough to entertain on a cruiser. I would imagine scraping pegs at every roundabout though. The regular street 750's 53bhp probably means an old 535 virago (190 kg wet) would likely kick its ass.
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[dydey90]

I feel like they’re trying. Triumph have been making loads of stuff like this recently and £7k isn’t bad money for a Harley compared to the usual chrome and tassels arrangement.
My 20+ year old 750 still makes nearly twice the power though...
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Past: CBR125,ER6f NINJA 650, ZZR600 Current: VFR750

[NutsyUk]

The talk of how heavy they are reminds me of the scene in terminator 2 where the terminator rides off the pointy edge to get inside the flood river duct thing......

I remember reading the bike wouldn't survive the landing on its own weight from that height.... Esp not with the weight of a terminator (meant to be a couple of hundred kilos.) The thing would have shattered...

Any way in the real world the bike still would have snapped in half with a 100 kilo muscled stunt rider. Which is why it was guided down slower on crane wires.
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Yamaha FZ8/Fazer800 (split headlight one) 2014, gingerly getting used to the massive increase in HP and not killing myself in the process! That was easy to get used to.
Kawasaki ER6F 2007 650 Gonna sell as a project bike!
Lexmoto XTR S 125 Sold!

[struan80]

[Hong Kong Phooey]

I've just seen their latest lifestyle advertorial. It seems they're throwing out loads of new models, electric motors, adventure bikes and everything.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=o6IREuN05jM

The ad centres on the experience and lifestyle elements, freeeedom 'Murica, look at our restyled logo on the storefront, globally expanding into territories near you. Just think of the children... They'd never live free if it wasn't for us. Look, retro black men and attractive blonde women also ride Harleys, not just paunchy leather waistcoated beardy piss pot wearers. Come on in and buy a Harley t-shirt if you're too feeble to manhandle our bikes off the sidestand.

It makes me wonder if by concentrating so hard on promoting the brand more than the dynamics of the machinery, is that an admission that the bikes are not up to much?

I've got to admit that I've never even tried one, and don't think I ever could, somehow it seems a bit like being a fake biker, a bit like a shortcut to socially declare yourself as a recognisable stereotype. I don't feel the need to broadcast to everyone I'm a motorcyclist, it's just one of the things I do. But when I do it I want something exciting.

But be it Ducati, HD, Honda or Lifan, I just couldn't brand myself up or marry into a corporate identity. It would mean never being able to try other (better) machinery

If perchance I one day do cross over to the darkside, please feel free to quote this back to me for eternity.
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