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Irezumi aka Reuben
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 22 Jul 2018    Post subject: Suggest me a career change Reply with quote

Right, I have returned to the UK after being in Australia and after having been back for 2 months there appears to be a bit of a lack of work for what I am qualified in.

I have an MSc in Biomechanics and previously worked for the NHS, sadly there isn't much money here and was looking to move in to private sector work. Interviews I have been going for in terms of research/product research are highly competitive and the few I've had have gone to people with more experience/PhD's.

To this end I am looking to retrain/move into a different field of work, although will still chase up what I am trained for as well. Does anyone have any idea on what I may be able to get into with a BSc (2:1) in sports science and an MSc in biomechanics and experience of working with qualitative data collection, processing and analysis.

Any suggestions are welcome so I can narrow down searches. I have considered statistical analysis jobs however my maths isn't the greatest and if going up against maths/physics graduates I'll be way out gunned. I would prefer not to have to spend a fortune on retraining either. So just after career routes I may not have considered if anyone has any. Or if you have a decent job going that I may be suitable then let me know as willing to relocate!

Thanks for any help.
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 22 Jul 2018    Post subject: Re: Suggest me a career change Reply with quote

Irezumi aka Reuben wrote:
my maths isn't the greatest and if going up against maths/physics graduates I'll be way out gunned.


Don't know anything about your field, but I'd lose that attitude for starters. You may have something else that these maths geniuses don't have that makes you attractive for a given post. Assuming you have enough to actually do the job of course!
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 22 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even big companies with large HR departments seem to outsource at least the initial recruitment activities to agencies these days. SRG always seemed ok to me. I think if you're not on agency lists you'll miss out on a lot of opportunities which you won't see advertised elsewhere.

Data Analytics seems to be a growing area and although in theory you need stats and computing knowledge my impression based upon colleagues who have moved into that role (albeit within the same drug company) are that an innate (but demonstrable) analytical ability plus knowledge of Excel and something like Statistica are enough to get you started. Worth slipping 'data analysis' into your cv.
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 22 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could always be a ninja, no really.

https://uk.businessinsider.com/iga-japan-is-facing-a-ninja-shortage-2018-7?r=US&IR=T

There is a ninja shortage in Japan (actually theatrical actors).


Or you could be a HK scaffolder. There is a serious shortage of traditional bamboo scaffolders. There are apprenticeships paying £30K to do it and whenever I have to hire scaffolders they have me over a barrel and I end up forking over far too much. There is such a shortage that it's on the fast track visa scheme meaning you don't have to jump through the hoops.

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PostPosted: 13:58 - 22 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prostitution.

You don't even need to be pretty, just take it up your arse.
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 22 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Prostitution.

You don't even need to be pretty, just take it up your arse.


At least you would know you are going to get shafted constantly eh
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 22 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Prostitution.

You don't even need to be pretty, just take it up your arse.


Could be a pimp. The only maths is counting money and how many slaps to give your stable.
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 22 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you considered teaching?
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 22 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 18:00 - 22 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Omega wrote:
Have you considered teaching?

OP wants a change due to lack of money and you suggest him teaching? You're pushing a man on the ledge, Mister. Confused
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 22 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP's qualifications and expertise is pretty specialist and not in a huge growth industry or large public sector money making role. Saying that I understand very little of exactly what OP's experience and career history is actually about.

But like in Oz we here have some growth industries and staff shortages in key roles or industries. Education and Health being two of them.

Also as the likes of Arry will be able to confirm, we have a large sector of UK employment and GDP contribution in the service sector, and particularly the financial services industry.

UK manufacturing and research companies do tend to employ world wide labour and contract out alot of work to people all over the world, partly because this suits their needs and also because there has been for probably 10years a chronic shortage of experienced graduates with suitable experience of industry, and because we don't want to do science or engineering generally as it's not sexy enough or seen as a quick win to big dollars like Accounting etc.

I also know of people that are qualified scientists, biologists etc, who initially got into industry or teaching. But over time their job has been dumbed down, or the skilled hands on contracted out to cheaper to employ foreign nationals etc etc. These people have now moved or been pushed into Admin and management roles well away from their actual skilled background.

I work more in the infrastructure and construction sector and more in a physical trade type role, and here I've seen subcontracting to cheaper outside agencies, lots of temporary brought in foreign labour and new completely green horn staff recruitment on short term low benefits and conditions contracts. Its cheaper to pay for training new non experienced staff on simple limited skilled work than it is to retain existing highly experienced and vastly knowledge and experience rich people because we are more expensive to keep or dispose of.

In short getting into any particular or specific career your aiming at is very difficult to impossible, and especially if your expertise and knowledge is not fully required or invaluable, as if only part of your role is required by employers it'll be filled quickly with people trained just enough to do the exact tasks required without any surplus or additional knowledge.

Yeah UK employment is in a daft place, it's pretty screwed and your competing world wide with other people who are likely to be willing to work for far less than you.

Its all about finding a job now (not a career) that pays you enough to live, and if possible enjoy your free time outside. I could be talking complete bollocks here so do enlighten me, but does anyone in the UK strive to achieve their way to the top of a chosen career or really give it their heart and soul and live to be the best they can, and hopefully get the recognition they might deserve for it.

Go to work do what needs to be done, get payed rinse and repeat is generally about it now, especially with our see saw uncertain economy and lack of opportunities in traditional sexy industries.
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 22 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:

Or you could be a HK scaffolder. There is a serious shortage of traditional bamboo scaffolders. There are apprenticeships paying £30K to do it and whenever I have to hire scaffolders they have me over a barrel and I end up forking over far too much.


We've recently been sending UK advanced scaffolders over to HK and China to teach tube & clip so it's no surprise really.
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PostPosted: 00:35 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

The big thing nowadays is 'Business intelligence'. Look it up and see how many companies are looking for people with the skills to do it. The UK has just twigged that this important, if you can harvest data from SAP and other programmes you'll be into an emerging job market. Sounds like you have the skills.

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PostPosted: 17:37 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
OP wants a change due to lack of money and you suggest him teaching? You're pushing a man on the ledge, Mister. Confused


It's all relative I suppose. I think the pay and benefits look pretty good. A lot of the complaints I hear from teachers come from people who have only ever known education / teaching. You're looking at £30k+ after a few years without taking on any extra responsibilities right? The weekly hours are practically part time and there is loads of time off.
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old Git Racing wrote:
The big thing nowadays is 'Business intelligence'. Look it up and see how many companies are looking for people with the skills to do it. The UK has just twigged that this important, if you can harvest data from SAP and other programmes you'll be into an emerging job market. Sounds like you have the skills.

OGR.


i hate SAP :p
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

There isn't a lack of money within biomechanics, just a lack of jobs within the UK. This is admittedly as I have not come from a biomedical engineering or physiotherapy route so probably my own fault.

Within what I did I assessed how people walked essentially. This would involve utilising 3-D motion capture equipment. Taking this data and processing it and if necessary running statistical analysis, this is the basics of what I do anyway.

Thanks for the suggestions. I do not want to go in to teaching as I know the hours that are required realistically from having friends and family involved.
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Omega wrote:
RhynoCZ wrote:
OP wants a change due to lack of money and you suggest him teaching? You're pushing a man on the ledge, Mister. Confused


It's all relative I suppose. I think the pay and benefits look pretty good. A lot of the complaints I hear from teachers come from people who have only ever known education / teaching. You're looking at £30k+ after a few years without taking on any extra responsibilities right? The weekly hours are practically part time and there is loads of time off.


Is dealing with children all day long worth 30K (the national avg. wages in 2018, so the internet says) a year? Thinking

I understand this, you don't get ''just'' 30K for being a university professor, so you are probably talking about primary and secondary school.
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Omega wrote:
RhynoCZ wrote:
OP wants a change due to lack of money and you suggest him teaching? You're pushing a man on the ledge, Mister. Confused


It's all relative I suppose. I think the pay and benefits look pretty good. A lot of the complaints I hear from teachers come from people who have only ever known education / teaching. You're looking at £30k+ after a few years without taking on any extra responsibilities right? The weekly hours are practically part time and there is loads of time off.


You don't know any teachers do you?

I know about 10, some family and some friends, and despite my piss taking about part time hours and loads of holiday, it sounds like the pit of fucking misery and I cannot understand how anyone would want to do it.

They see it as a vocation rather than a career.

Dilly dilly.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

J4mes wrote:
Omega wrote:


It's all relative I suppose. I think the pay and benefits look pretty good. A lot of the complaints I hear from teachers come from people who have only ever known education / teaching. You're looking at £30k+ after a few years without taking on any extra responsibilities right? The weekly hours are practically part time and there is loads of time off.


You don't know any teachers do you?

I know about 10, some family and some friends, and despite my piss taking about part time hours and loads of holiday, it sounds like the pit of fucking misery and I cannot understand how anyone would want to do it.

They see it as a vocation rather than a career.

Dilly dilly.


Yep, I have to agree with James on that, daughter in law is a Maths teacher, secondary school, work stupidly long hours, and has to deal with luddite parents as well gormless fucktard kids at times, not a job I'd particularly want to go into.

OP has a degree, show willing, and adaptability, shouldn't find it too hard to find a role, it will largely depend on the op's expectations
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can earn £35-38k p/a with average-good levels of overtime, but for that I expect to get very dirty and shitty, grafting on building sites, digging holes, using noisy and hearing damaging plant and working 10-12hr days or out of hours/night work and in and around other peoples work hours to get infrastructure in and connected etc.

Not sure that kind of work is on OP's radar, but it's a hell of lot better than being a secondary school teacher IMO.
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Assuming OP is male, don't go near teaching kids of any age because putting it bluntly, being a male teacher today
is cancer. Because to fit in with the current establishment, you HAVE to leave any shred of masculinity at the door. Then,
after a short time you will begin to lactate as you gradually become one of them. Teachers were pretty insufferable
tools back in the 80's when I was in their regular daily company. But at least we still had a handful of hairy arsed, miserable,
terrifying bastards who could freeze a room just by walking into it. No place for that in modern schools which can only mean
the trendy "call me Mike" beardy types are all that remain.

Worst case scenario? Failing your chromosonal switchover. Sooner or later you'll be accused of paedophilia by
a pupil or female colleague. Or maybe inappropriate behaviour toward a female colleague or just being aggressive and dominant.
What ever it ends up being, I do hope you can prove your innocence because your guilt will be assumed. Their whole belief
system revolves around crucifying scum just like you whenever and wherever you can be identified. These bitches have
Facebook. And they will use it to ruin you for their cause in a heartbeat. Truth told, they don't want traditional
male values to propagate, not one little bit. So you fight against them every single day until you get tired and leave. Or you take
on the path of least resistance and start eating all that "everybody is special" bollocks up with the rest of them. Get a
mans job. While there are still some left. Retrain if necessary. You can earn well driving fork trucks on building sites and
it sure as hell carries more man points than teaching little Muhammeed to read or little Shaniqua that she can
be anything she wants to be if she just tries her best. Then, there's the parents you'll have to deal with. Oh Jesus, it's just
cancer. Run, run away.
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 23 Jul 2018    Post subject: Re: Suggest me a career change Reply with quote

Irezumi aka Reuben wrote:
Right, I have returned to the UK after being in Australia and after having been back for 2 months there appears to be a bit of a lack of work for what I am qualified in.

I have an MSc in Biomechanics and previously worked for the NHS, sadly there isn't much money here and was looking to move in to private sector work. Interviews I have been going for in terms of research/product research are highly competitive and the few I've had have gone to people with more experience/PhD's.

To this end I am looking to retrain/move into a different field of work, although will still chase up what I am trained for as well. Does anyone have any idea on what I may be able to get into with a BSc (2:1) in sports science and an MSc in biomechanics and experience of working with qualitative data collection, processing and analysis.

Any suggestions are welcome so I can narrow down searches. I have considered statistical analysis jobs however my maths isn't the greatest and if going up against maths/physics graduates I'll be way out gunned. I would prefer not to have to spend a fortune on retraining either. So just after career routes I may not have considered if anyone has any. Or if you have a decent job going that I may be suitable then let me know as willing to relocate!

Thanks for any help.


Important questions:

Age range?
What wage are you aiming for?
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 24 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teaching bike shop staff such as Halfords staff how to size people for bicycles.

Sounds ridiculous but there is a humongous amount of money in bike fitting. Even I find it ridiculous but there you are, people are stupid.
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 24 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hawkeye1250FA wrote:
Important questions:

Age range?
What wage are you aiming for?

Early 30's.

Would hope around mid £20k's give or take but happy to go with early £20k's if it's a decent career job with prospects that I'll enjoy.

@Sickpup. Bikefit stuff is quite oversubscribed now, lots of it is high end too, may send off some speculative CV's though. Had considered re training in cycle mechanics or even as a motorcycle mechanic but no-one will take me on as an apprentice as would cost them too much over an out of school applicant.
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 24 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

IT contracting.

You have a proven track record of being able to learn... It shouldnt take you long to learn the main traits of the BI stack (VBA / SQL).

£250 per day for a very very basic excel contract. Up to £500-£600 per day for advanced database work.

Anything you don't know you can Google.
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