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Posted: 18:23 - 03 Aug 2018 Post subject: |
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I love walking on the lake District fells and used to enjoy long distance walks - you don't get much more of a feeling of freedom than that, but motorcycling is something very different for me, and the freedom side is just a part of it, which is why I go touring, used to attend race meets, like going to bike meets at pubs and cafes (yeah, I know, sorry ) - all of it.
Even ABS and all the modern power modes don't really interest me - they're taking something away from me I feel, although I understand the want for them with others, and don't knock them for it. It's just what I grew up with and got used to. Biking really was a kind of a lifestyle for me (yeah, I know, sorry again ), although I'm not really able to afford to indulge as much as I'd like anymore.
More on topic, but staying with the theme of not changing - I still don't like Harleys, even the ones in the OP ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: |
Actually, I probably could live with EVs for commuting, shopping etc. But not for proper biking, i.e. riding for fun, touring, sport and racing (if I raced). It will be sad to lose all the evocative side of the ICE: noise, smells of oil and fuel, fettling and servicing an engine etc. There's just so much more to it all than just being on two wheels for me. |
Me too!
Back on topic: Motorcycles for me, have to be fun and while I love all bikes, owning something that is too heavy, too slow, has too little ground clearance, has too little cornering ability and all the other stuff that come with HD ownership just doesn't do it for me. I tried going down the alternative route with one of the new T120 Triumphs and it was the biggest mistake I've ever made. Nice to look at but otherwise a low quality, low fun, lump of crap. |
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chickenstrip wrote: |
Actually, I probably could live with EVs for commuting, shopping etc. But not for proper biking, i.e. riding for fun, touring, sport and racing (if I raced). It will be sad to lose all the evocative side of the ICE: noise, smells of oil and fuel, fettling and servicing an engine etc. There's just so much more to it all than just being on two wheels for me. |
Me too!
Back on topic: Motorcycles for me, have to be fun and while I love all bikes, owning something that is too heavy, too slow, has too little ground clearance, has too little cornering ability and all the other stuff that come with HD ownership just doesn't do it for me. I tried going down the alternative route with one of the new T120 Triumphs and it was the biggest mistake I've ever made. Nice to look at but otherwise a low quality, low fun, lump of crap. |
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Posted: 21:23 - 10 Aug 2018 Post subject: Re: Harley Davidson courts the not-cruiser audience |
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Hang fire a little longer, DFS normally start their sale this time of year.
As I've said elsewhere, HD are trying to expand, cuz Murica, freedom.
Will they alienate their core fanbase, do they even care?
Obese white men don't seem to live that long, hence the attempt at cajoling the hipsters. ____________________
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I get the point about newer generations looking differently at electric bikes, but I'm with the Chickeny one on this:
It has to go vroom, not mehhhhhh.
Of the four Harleys, I like the styling of the bottom two, but in general ... and even though I love my little Sportster, the general Harley experience has left me cold. I would never have paid just for the name anyway, the main reason it took me nearly 20 years of my riding history to get round to a Harley at all .
As for the 'wing... well of course ... and I know I'm like way old and that, so yes I'd deffo like one, but still not one that looks like that. It would have to be chopped and get all that sofa off it. My fella once had a 'wing that he chopped down and put apes on (long before my time ) - I've got a picture of it somewhere - its one of those "he looks dead cool and he wasn't even trying" sort of pictures ____________________ Not nearly as interesting in real life. |
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Still ... I'm always open to different experiences.
I don't completely shy away from The New.
I'd have a go on one, even if they are alleged to be "gutless" in comparison.
I like hipsters, I liked yuppies, I even quite liked the Toyota Prius, which I never thought I would. So I reckon there's no point in dissing change, even for change's sake, cos its surprising what comes out of new ideas, techniques and modes, in whatever field.
So I might try one or two out, at some point, just to see if I hate them as much as I'm expected to.
I'm feeling philosophical today, instead of just reactionary ____________________ Not nearly as interesting in real life. |
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stevo as b4 wrote: | a powerful but lightish engine |
And that, I think, is the nub of my problem with Harleys, and why these new models don't appeal to me much. A heavy, underpowered agricultural lump is never going to inspire my interest, no matter what chassis they put it in. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: |
And that, I think, is the nub of my problem with Harleys, and why these new models don't appeal to me much. A heavy, underpowered agricultural lump is never going to inspire my interest, no matter what chassis they put it in. |
I can see your point, and from knowing your biking history and previous machinery then no you'd never be satisfied with a large cc low state of tune lazy engine.
I personally havnt ridden anything very large and lazy, but I like the idea of a big cc low revving all the power at the bottom end delivery, if it's in the right bike and used on the right roads for the right things.
I can't imagine ever being satisfied with bikes forever if someone said every bike you own for the rest of your days will be an IL4 for example. I want more variety than that, and not really being a track day rider etc I'm not ever really looking at bikes that are way to capable or way too much for my needs and usage.
I remember someone on here once saying that the best feeling in riding a bike on the road was '' Feeding a powerful litre IL4 sports bike gears using the quickshifter as fast as possible''.
Not my idea of fun for more than a test ride novelty tbh.
But vaguely back on topic, a big Japanese bike like the Suzuki 1800 Intruder would appeal more for both chugging around town and open roads cruising. But then again for back lanes fun and being a twat a 35bhp 125 supermoto would light my fire, as would a cheap shit twist and go 125 for going shopping on etc. |
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stevo as b4 wrote: | Feeding a powerful litre IL4 sports bike gears using the quickshifter as fast as possible''.
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IL4's (mostly) leave me cold. Been there, done that.
I've loved big thumpy singles, twins, and at the moment, a V4. I still haven't tried out a triple yet. I'll have a play on a leccy bike, the instant torque is appealing. I'd have another IL4, but it would have to be something really special/pretty (MV F4, Kwak H2 etc).
As you say, variety is the thing. Different people, moods, conditions etc. ____________________ '98 VFR800 (touring) - '12 VFR800 Crosrunner (Commuting) - '01 KDX220 (Big Green Antisocial Machine) |
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stevo as b4 wrote: |
But vaguely back on topic, a big Japanese bike like the Suzuki 1800 Intruder would appeal more for both chugging around town and open roads cruising. But then again for back lanes fun and being a twat a 35bhp 125 supermoto would light my fire, as would a cheap shit twist and go 125 for going shopping on etc. |
You really need to have a go on a Buell.
I've been doing MOTs on a Firebolt for the last few years and it's just ridiculous - feels like it weighs the same as an X7, but the instant torque is like hitting the power band at tick over, then it just inexorably gathers speed, like being pulled along by a huge bungee.
I'm not mad keen on the head down, arse up riding position, but a Ulysses is definitely on my wish list. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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Nope, you didn't get me at all, I'm talking about the Buell XB12X Ulysses, the upright ADV version of the Firebolt.
And the HD engine is a peach, if you tune it to make the power it really should, as Buell did.
Yes, the HD motor is a bit vibey at really low revs, but once you get it going, it smooths right out and just keeps on giving.
The other thing that motor has is character, something the big Jap V twins lack - some of them might perform a bit better, but they do it in such a sanitised way, you feel cheated.
And no, as an only bike I wouldn't swap my SW for a Pan or an FJR; I regularly piss on smaller scooters round the twisties, get the best of them in heavy traffic and I can still sit at 80 mph on a motorway. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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