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DrSnoosnoo
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Bikes with achievable tank ranges over 200 miles? Reply with quote

Chatting with a possible job change, it's a bit further away from home. Pretty much 80 mile round trip but dem dollars.

My ZZR could only ever eek out around 150 miles from the tank when commuting. (probably my fault should have cleaned up the reserve section, it was filthy)

What bikes are about with tank ranges around there? I think the dreaded NC7xx series can make > 200, the V Strom 650, Tiger 800.

Needs to be something that's up to doing these trips daily, so no KTMs that need a warm up even before you can think of pressing the starter.

TLDR - Bikes with tank ranges > 200 miles let's say budget around 4k.
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

ST1100, 250-300 miles per tank depending on year and condition. Honda Delville also as a mega range.
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

R1stu wrote:
ST1100, 250-300 miles per tank depending on year and condition. Honda Delville also as a mega range.


I have noticed the ST1100 thanks for reminding me. How are they for servicing and consumables? Are they getting long in the tooth these days?
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

VFR will do over 200 happily.
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're only looking at a few big bikes with that sort of range, things like BMW's, Pan Euros, NC's and the like.

Personally I would be looking at a Pan for that kind of mileage. BMW's too finicky and too many electronics for cheap servicing, NC's aren't exactly comfortable, once you fit a big screen and boxes the MPG drops a lot nd they are chain drive so additional cost. A 700 Deauville 'could' get you 200 but likely only160-180 so that leaves you with an 1100 or 1300 Pan.

The 1100 is a bit old in the tooth these days but low mileage ones are about for pretty good prices around £2000 but the 1300 is a better bike and can be picked up for £3000 with newer ones at £4000.

The good thing about the 1300 Pan is Avon Wink do the Storm 3D for them so cheap tyres that last ages and servicing is relatively easy and cheap. It has remained pretty much the same since it was released so 2nd hand parts availability is good as well.
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
You're only looking at a few big bikes with that sort of range, things like BMW's, Pan Euros, NC's and the like.

Personally I would be looking at a Pan for that kind of mileage. BMW's too finicky and too many electronics for cheap servicing, NC's aren't exactly comfortable, once you fit a big screen and boxes the MPG drops a lot nd they are chain drive so additional cost. A 700 Deauville 'could' get you 200 but likely only160-180 so that leaves you with an 1100 or 1300 Pan.

The 1100 is a bit old in the tooth these days but low mileage ones are about for pretty good prices around £2000 but the 1300 is a better bike and can be picked up for £3000 with newer ones at £4000.

The good thing about the 1300 Pan is Avon Wink do the Storm 3D for them so cheap tyres that last ages and servicing is relatively easy and cheap. It has remained pretty much the same since it was released so 2nd hand parts availability is good as well.


HAHA! Nice.

Yeah I also thought of BMWs but everywhere you read, they aren't as good as their marketing suggests. I'd need something nice and comfortable that I can plug some heated grips into, maybe a vest and with 250 miles range, that's as good as my last two cars...

Are these Hondas as reliable as Honda suggest?
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last 3 bikes I've owned all had 200 mile tank ranges:

Honda CBR500R
Triumph Tiger 800 XR
Ducati Multistrada 950

Admittedly the Ducati only just does 200 to a tank, I wouldn't fancy pushing it too often.
The Honda fits your budget best though and is decent for commuting generally as other consumables are also cheap.
If it's too slow for you, you could go for an older Tiger to get in budget.
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

ADSrox0r wrote:
VFR will do over 200 happily.


How much over out of interest?
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

FZ6 can do 200 I seen 240 !
St1300 open roads 300 seen 320 !

most newer non sports bike should be good for 200
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

BrownTrousers wrote:
The last 3 bikes I've owned all had 200 mile tank ranges:

Honda CBR500R
Triumph Tiger 800 XR
Ducati Multistrada 950

Admittedly the Ducati only just does 200 to a tank, I wouldn't fancy pushing it too often.
The Honda fits your budget best though and is decent for commuting generally as other consumables are also cheap.
If it's too slow for you, you could go for an older Tiger to get in budget.


How's the weather protection on the Honda?

Same question with the FZ6... bikini fairings can't be too great can they?
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

FZ6 with screen extender is good I do 15k+ every year all year around no hassles !
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

davebike wrote:
FZ6 with screen extender is good I do 15k+ every year all year around no hassles !


Very interesting. Seems an OK looking one can be picked up for about £1500
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only bike I've owned with great mileage is the current main one gsx1250. 188 if you are brave.

Good weather protection from the fairing. Not the most fun bike in the world though.
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Re: Bikes with achievable tank ranges over 200 miles? Reply with quote

DrSnoosnoo wrote:
What bikes are about with tank ranges around there? I think the dreaded NC7xx series can make > 200, the V Strom 650, Tiger 800.

I never even used to think about refuelling my VStrom till way after 200 miles; I could certainly cover 230 miles on a tank but that's where I lost my bottle; I never ran out but I believe it could go quite a bit further. Great bike too, I loved mine.
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrSnoosnoo wrote:
BrownTrousers wrote:
The last 3 bikes I've owned all had 200 mile tank ranges:

Honda CBR500R
Triumph Tiger 800 XR
Ducati Multistrada 950

Admittedly the Ducati only just does 200 to a tank, I wouldn't fancy pushing it too often.
The Honda fits your budget best though and is decent for commuting generally as other consumables are also cheap.
If it's too slow for you, you could go for an older Tiger to get in budget.


How's the weather protection on the Honda?



Its ok actually. They do an ADV version the CB500X which would have the same economy if preferred.
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Re: Bikes with achievable tank ranges over 200 miles? Reply with quote

DrSnoosnoo wrote:


My ZZR could only ever eek out around 150 miles from the tank when commuting. (probably my fault should have cleaned up the reserve section, it was filthy)



I get over 200 miles from the ZZR1100 without going into reserve.
The ZZR1200 is also supposed to be reasonably frugal.

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I think the dreaded NC7xx series can make > 200


I ride a NC750X for the local bloodbike group. It often tops 80MPG.
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also have an FZ6 and do a 60 mile round trip (ish) commute in to london every day. I have to fill up twice a week or about every 3 days.

I normally catch it just as it gets to reserve so likely doing about 180 before I fill up, I have however been 25 miles into the reserve and have heard of people hitting 40 miles in reserve....

Its not mega mileage but the mpg is pretty good.
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBR500 will do over 200 easily.
Had 200 on the thundercat a number of times, although that was into reserve. Mid 180's was where the fuel light would typically come on at dual carriageway speeds.
The GSXR1000 I had actually got slightly better MPG than the thundercat coming back from BCF BBQ wales on the motorway. Just over 60mpg, and around 180miles when the fuel light came on. Not sure how big the reserve was, so couldn't say if it would ever achieve 200 miles. Mileage achieved would very much vary with the type of riding. City centre and I'd be lucky to get much over 100 with mid 30MPG.
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fuel light on my VFR800X comes on at about 160. It'll go a good bit further though, 180 is the furthest I've pushed it so don't really know one where it'll die. Does less commuting about town. Fuel economy is shite for an 800 - typically about 46-50mpg, but I do like the VTEC.

My mates 650 VStrom easily did 200 to a tank, circa 60mpg even giving it some beans.
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only thing I've ever seen an issue with on Pans was rot, whether its silencers or swingarm, but unsure if thats all 1100/1300 or just a selection, obviously I'm not a big lardy bike fan Laughing

My GSXR1000 has seen 180 miles and I then worried about how big reserve was but again, that was back from Wales BBQ.

Not that I was to discourage, but I moved closer to work (sub 30 second walk) because it worked out I'd spend more to get a bike, insure, consumables and time... even now I'm commuting 20 mins a day and it feels like thats too far.
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thundercat will do over 200 without much bother. I usually filled up every 180 miles or so because it meant i could ride how i liked rather than economically.
Mine did 25k over a year and averaged 55mpg (at 90+mph cruising)

Most i got was 64 or so mpg which was boring AF.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

TDM 900 easily, with its 20L tank.

Worst I've done is 180 (headwind) until light comes on, but usually 200-220 - and then of course whatever still remains in there.
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrSnoosnoo wrote:
Are these Hondas as reliable as Honda suggest?


Pretty much yes. Well serviced they should see 250k without any major issues. I know one that has over 350k but has gone through 3 alternators but no other issues except a heated grip wire harness problem.
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Re: Bikes with achievable tank ranges over 200 miles? Reply with quote

DrSnoosnoo wrote:
Chatting with a possible job change, it's a bit further away from home. Pretty much 80 mile round trip but dem dollars.

My ZZR could only ever eek out around 150 miles from the tank when commuting. (probably my fault should have cleaned up the reserve section, it was filthy)

What bikes are about with tank ranges around there? I think the dreaded NC7xx series can make > 200, the V Strom 650, Tiger 800.

Needs to be something that's up to doing these trips daily, so no KTMs that need a warm up even before you can think of pressing the starter.

TLDR - Bikes with tank ranges > 200 miles let's say budget around 4k.


I do ~80 mile round trip, being able to fill up every-other day really does make a big difference. If your trip can be done mostly on fast roads then I'd go for something big & faired - if you need to filter in a city then the NC7XX would be a good choice. (I wish they'd do an NC750 turbo, that'd be quite nice - economy, with a bit of on-tap oomph when you wanted it)
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 31 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm one of those who usually says "Move closer to work".

But this new place is a bit further past my current place, may not even get it, just considering stuff.

Between my house and my place of work is ... nothing, really. Just farmland and the odd village with shite links, so if we moved to one of them, my missus' commute would be much worse, getting into Leeds and be even more arduous for the Fam to get to us too.

The journey is mostly A roads without too much need of filtering apart from Keighley and Colne where it can get snarled up.

After recently binning off the ZZR because I couldn't be bothered with doing a bit of an overhaul on it, I'm now driving the turbo SX4 which at 30 mpg and super petrol it's costing me a touch more than the old pIgnis Sport used. So even if I don't get this job I'd still be interested in a bike to stay at the current place because commuting on a bike is better than being in a car in almost all variants of weather.
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