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I would think very carefully before going for a Pan for the journey you're proposing, I definitely wouldn't do it without a test ride.
My experience of them (18 months pedalling an ST1100 around semi rural Kent and ultra urban London) is that they're a bit too lardy for low to medium speed commuting, if that's all you're going to do with it.
Don't get me wrong, they handle better than they look like they should, but I was always very aware of the weight and bulk of the thing, especially when faced with damp and gravel strewn B and C roads; there was always the thought in the back of my mind that one day, a pothole or pile of horse apples would unexpectedly appear and I would end up on my arse, there's no way you would hold it up.
Not the best thing for heavy traffic either, again the sheer size gets in the way of constant rapid progress.
I understand why people like them, but I would only have one if part of my biking life was regular high speed journeys or touring and I could only have one bike - to be honest, even in that circumstance, I would probably look for another alternative. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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My Sprint 995 does over 200 miles too but it is a big tank. Later 1050s are supposed to go further ____________________ Licence: Nov 2012, Bikes: Suzuki GN125, Moto Guzzi Strada 750, Triumph Sprint ST 955i x 2
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Loui5D wrote: | I can get 70MPG on the Strom sticking to motorways.
In this instance i can't recommend a bike due to the distance that you'll be travelling, it'll drain you physically & mentally.
Get a car, as you said yourself you won't really be filtering so you're not really loosing out. |
My current commute is 25 miles all A roads once out of Ilkley. I really enjoy it when on the bike. The extra 13 (?) miles would be the same type of roads but across from Keighley (2 ees and 2 effs) to Colne then a blat down the M56 towards Blackbeerrrnnn. The Colne bit can, and often does, get very congested so it would be awful in the car, only about 2 miles or so to get through this, hence the "lack" of filtering but I bet that 2 miles could save at least 20 minutes each way.
Without turning into a Dear Auntie thread, there's other jobs about, gonna have a mooch - Halifax for example but that's a trip across Bradford that I moved, to avoid, for my current position. Bradford is like a black hole but with more shit - I hate the place. ____________________ I'm Sam; Northern, Ginger, Lover
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The old VF Thou had a five and a half galleon tank.... and a 'quoted' thirst of 30mpg.. suggesting a notional range of about 150 miles give or take a dreg or three in 'reserve'....
Second day after I collected it, I took a toddle out to get a feel for the thing; and the fuel lamp came on on me, suggesting I fill up. The thought "Oh dear, here it comes..." went through my mind; then I looked at the oddo... I had been in the saddle for over five hours, and cranked up almost 300miles, achieving an average of near 60mpg, almost double what book said.....
A few weeks later, coming back from work, the fuel lamp came on about half a dozen miles from home, and I thought, "Oh, that's odd!" and pulled into the services on the by-pass.... coasting the last 100 yards on vapour! A quick tally suggested that caning it twist roundabouts and traffic lights on the commute, I had only managed something scratching double figures, and a 15mpg average, 1/2 what the book said was more realistic.
So its all a piece of string question really..... them moorland roads round Leeds & Keithley... would beg me getting off the boring by-passes, and either relaxing and enjoying the view, and getting big MPG numbers... or having a bit more fun, and getting rather low ones..... In either case.... the fuel consumption and range, would probably NOT be a huge consideration in my purchase decision...
If it WAS.. then a Citreon C3's Co2 based tax and suggested 55-80mph consumption, pus a windscreen, and air-conditioning, and not having to tog up like a deep-sea diver to get to work, WOULD likely sway me rather to NOT buy a bike at all, to 'commute'... a more sensible car would be, well, far more sensible, and cheaper;
And given that a nominal 20 mile trip to work every day, 3/4 on more interesting rural roads, into built up brum, took much the same on a bike as in car, any saving found by filtering wasted by togging on and off either end.. would also, sway me 'cheap economical' car wise, and picking a bike, just for the fun on sunny evenings and week-ends.... and taking the "+commuting" off bike insurance policy would probably even pay for it!
End of the day, bikes use petrol, and big bikes use quite a lot of it, and more the harder and faster you ride'em. If range is that much of a consideration.... I found work not much fun, so getting there not a lot either; and going zombie for a while longer in the BC... before caffeine.. in the car, was no great loss.... for fun? Save it for the week-end!
So how much fun do you want; how much cheap do you need? And what's the best compromise you can make.... and given that fill=-ups are more a matter of inconvenience than anything, and a crash-hat and wet-weathers demanded by bike are a far bigger one from the off, IS this really a make or break issue?
Me? I'd still probably plump for the cheap-ecconomical low tax rate euro-box and some more minutes half asleep not worrying about cow crap or SMIDSY.... But either which way, I wouldn't be expecting to find the solution in the brochure specs or mag-reviews..... As much of more difference to be found in how heavy handed you be with whatever you get.
So, no panacea prescription I am afraid... just think a little more about it, then suit yourself! Your the one that has to ride it! ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Long-range bike? CB125F.
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Getting over 200 miles to a tank does make longer commutes more bearable. I normally head for a petrol station at about 155 miles on the CBF1000 which puts me at 2 to 3 fill-ups a week.
I’m on the old 90’s CB500 currently while the CBF waits for me to change the stator. The additional mileage available on the 500 is lovely.
At my last refuel I’d done 236 miles and the tank took 18.49 litres (about 58mpg). That was probably pushing my luck a little. I was probably only half a litre away from walking. And I’ve recently been riding like an utter cockwomble so it’s probably capable of pushing 70mpg if I dialled back my level of retard.
Regarding comfort on the NC750 I found it fine for commuting when I had a loan bike for 3 days recently, but that’s was only an hour each way and 60ish miles a day. All day in the saddle is a different matter. I had the S model which was a bit of a ballache on the motorway, but handy through town. I enjoyed it more in shitty wet weather than I did when the sun came out. As soon as the roads dried out I kept smashing off the incredibly low rev limiter in every gear. ____________________ 2007 CBF1000-ABS - Commuter heaven | 1994 CBR600FR - Awaiting defibrillation |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 262 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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