How much is a reasonable price to replace types?

[NutsyUk]

So today have had a bit of a debate with a few people and its wound me up and I need more opinions....

See I dont think 20 quid to replace 2 tyres when your delivering the wheels off the bike is reasonable at all... If they were manually removing them with clamps irons and elbow grease then yeah sure 20 is a bargain. But theyre not. Its a hydrolic press that breaks the bead and pops the tyre off in a press of a button.

In total to do 2 wheels cant take more than 2-5 minutes... Personally I just cant see how 20 quid is justifiable in that regard.

5 quid a tyre I would say is reasonable because its the price of convenience. But 10 quid is a rip off...

How much are you charged for this service?

Of course I have taken into consideration there are costs such as maintenance of the equipment and time and rents... yet I still cant see how 20 quid for 5 minutes work, and the minuscule amount of ware that might be caused to the machine, is justifiable.

Back in the day I was a freelance graphics and special effects artist.

Where I would charge 300 a day for highly technical skilled work. 12% of that was taken by my agent... Break that down hourly that was 37 quid an hour...

Break that down to minutes thats £3.08 for 5 minutes work. Bare in mind I also had costs, I had to pay for my own travel my agent fees a living... And most of all it was a highly skilled technical job. It was indeed very good money... But it also didnt have the security of work every day...

Now compare that to the job of replacing a couple of tyres. You place the wheels on the press... Press a button. Tyre is pushed off. You line up the arrows and place new tyre over wheel, and press a button. New tyre is pushed on... All in all takes roughly 5 minutes to do the two tyres. How the hell can 20 quid for what is essentially a trivial task (when you have the equipment) justifiable? And youre a business with the security of daily income in one form of another,

I am honestly considering just doing it my self with some irons and a gclamp. Sure its hard work might take a hour or two but I save 20 quid which in my life currently isnt a trivial amount of money.
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[Pjay]

I agree, it's quite a lot just to swap the tyres, especially when you consider they are also making a profit on the sale of the tyres.
Unless of course the tyre prices are subsidised by the cost of changing them. Selling items at cost, with profitable addons is a standard practice for lots of companies. Are the tyres quite cheap?
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[NutsyUk]

Actually i got the trres myself ordered from demon tweaks... I would just go to the workshop, delivery my wheels sans bike and the new tyres to fit... Heck the workshop would also keep the old tyres and make a small profit selling them as scrap...
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Lexmoto XTR S 125 Sold!

[MarJay]

£20 is fine if they have to remove the wheels. £10 per tyre is OK for loose wheels IMO.

However, at the end of the day people charge what they charge, and it's up to you if you want to pay or not. If you change a lot of tyres, buy your own tyre equipment. Otherwise keep local bike shops in business.

I'd be very sad and disappointed if all local backstreet bike garages were replaced by main stealers.
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[sickpup]

For a good new tyre machine you are looking at £1600+vat minimum. Yes you can get cheaper but I said good.

At £10 per tyre you are looking at 160 tyre changes to break even and that doesn't include the cost of the person to run the machine or the cost of power/air.

A good balancer with adaptors costs £1600+vat minimum so if balancing is included £10 per wheel is a very good price.

If the tyre changer scratches your wheels would would expect them to pay to repaint them and yes it does happen especially in winter when tyres are harder to remove.

[AshWebster]

if the machine is working 100 times a day they will obv put prices down but due to the relatively low demand and use they can charge whatever people will pay really. its not like people have them lying around in their houses is it?
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[Pjay]

[sickpup]

[NutsyUk]

[NutsyUk]

[pepperami]

OP ... stop being so tight fisted and give the man a score, he’ll be more willing to help you out next time you need him.

Stick only fiver in his pocket and he’ll be to busy next time you need him.

Personally if someone only gave me a fiver, I’d give it back to them as they are obviously just a tight fisted git and I wouldn’t bother doing the job.
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[Itchy]

[NutsyUk]

[NutsyUk]

[DrSnoosnoo]

The good tyre place in leeds (IMO) has the policy of, you pay 20 quid to fit tyres purchased from them as a ride in, ride out service. bring loose wheels, fitting is free.

They obviously make enough profit from the tyre sales to cover the cost of manning the machine etc but need to charge more for the time taken to get wheels off the bike.

The fact that you want to take tyres in, not bought from them and then ask them to do the dirty work you don't want to do, well, they have you over a barrel.

How long would it take you to do it, if you started right now? is that hassle worth more than £20? I'd pay it. Next time ask him for a price on those tyres, fitted to loose wheels.
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[Wonko The Sane]

[NutsyUk]

in what world are they being charged for disposal? The rubber and steal weave can be recycled and is a comodity, There are people who buy this stuff from the workshops....

bussies near me who probably change near 50-100 tyres a day get paid to have there used tyres collected for recycling as the recycling companies makes a profit from the sale of the raw materials...
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Lexmoto XTR S 125 Sold!

[Ste]

I'd expect a better price for fitting if you were buying the tyres from the garage but since you've bought them elsewhere, it's not really worth his time if he gave you a bargain price for fitting.

Phone around other places locally to confirm that nowhere is willing to do a cheaper price for fitting tyres that you supply.

Bleating about how much you charged for highly technical skilled work as a freelance graphics and special effects artist is 100% irrelevant.

You're not interested in the local bike garage guy as a business and he's not interested in you being one of his customers. Sounds to me like a match made in heaven.

[rpsmith79]

[MarJay]

[Itchy]

[NutsyUk]

Sorry...
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Yamaha FZ8/Fazer800 (split headlight one) 2014, gingerly getting used to the massive increase in HP and not killing myself in the process! That was easy to get used to.
Kawasaki ER6F 2007 650 Gonna sell as a project bike!
Lexmoto XTR S 125 Sold!

[Itchy]

[NutsyUk]

[rpsmith79]