Hit car from behind after it pulled out.

[Hawkeye1250FA]

So. Not me - a friend of a friend...

She's driving along in a 60 (doing 60) - long clear straight with a cross-road halfway.

Being a car driver. She obvious carried on at 60 without checking if there were any knobheads around.

Young female driver pulls out to go same way as my friends friend. Accelerates to 20 and site there.

Friend of a friend slams breaks on and turns to avoid. Slide into her rear quarter. Minimal damage to her. Friend of a friend needs new bumper.

Insurance company pushing for friend of a friend to accept liability.

No dashcam.
No CCTV.

Should she just accept it?
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[P.]

Only a cunt hits the car in front. If you are that close that you can't avoid a collision, you were too close. If I hit someone up the arse, unless they literally stood on the brakes at 70+ and had no brake lights, I'd have to accept it was my lack of skill that caused a crunch.

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I suppose the deciding factor would be how far from the junction did the accident happen?

If it was more than 73M from the junction (Stopping distance at 60mph) , your friend of a friend wouldn't have a leg to stand on, less than that and he may have a case.
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[chickenstrip]

I can't help but think that if the car that pulled out had time to accelerate to 20mph from a standstill, and then just 'sit' at that speed, your acquaintance should have had time to slow enough not to hit it.

Also, on a road with a 60mph speed limit and a junction, especially with someone wanting to pull out of that junction, I'd have slowed a little on approach just in case, and been ready for the car to pull out. Poor obs on the part of your acquaintance? Or assuming that other road users will take a particular course of action? Either way, fail.
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[Hawkeye1250FA]

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[Hawkeye1250FA]

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[Hawkeye1250FA]

So perhaps she is shit with distances?

Think pulled out on with no chance of stopping - that's as accurate as I can get because that's what happened 👍 everything else she has said is open to her interpretation of the situation.
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[chickenstrip]

[Hawkeye1250FA]

Apparently the artic she tried it on last time did a valiant effort. He still failed though.

Do what I'm hearing is both to blame. Bitches be shit at driving. She should take the insurances companies advice and learn to approach junctions slower?
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[Hawkeye1250FA]

Nope.

No police. Asking her about photos now.

Update to description of events....: (Women)
She now says the car wasn't just "doing 20"... It pulled out on her and only got up to 20 - then stopped for no reason.

She says it was about 30m from the junction. 👍
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[Hawkeye1250FA]

Other driver is also now disputing that she stopped at all. 🤦‍♂️

Game over I think.
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[Hawkeye1250FA]

Photos wise.

She has shots of both cars separately... And the skid marks.

No shots of both cars in situ. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
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[janner_10]

Same happened to me a few years ago:

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=248198&highlight=

I hit the old duffer in the back of his car, which to be fair was about the only option.

Found 100% in my favour, plus damages for broken wrist, gear etc.

So no, only a cunt doesn't always hit the guy in front!
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[Hawkeye1250FA]

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[Hawkeye1250FA]

Do you just like argueing Paddy? 😁🤣

His sounds the same as the one I'm describing. Car pulls out with no way of stopping - even with brakes slammed on.

You are agreeing with his course of action - but insisting if it was you, the brakes would have worked better? 🤔

I hear your reasoning. And I agree - but you are responding to a different situation. Vlogger762 that speeds up when someone pulls out to get better footage - expecting him to speed up - and he doesn't... That's who you are aiming at.

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