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PostPosted: 17:23 - 16 Aug 2018    Post subject: A vegan and a vegetarian went cycling near ISIS Reply with quote

"Evil is a make-believe concept we've invented to deal with the complexities of fellow humans."

An idealistic young American couple was killed in an Islamic State-claimed terrorist attack last month while on a cycling trip around the world.

Jay Austin and Lauren Geoghegan, both 29, last year quit their office jobs in Washington, DC, to embark on the journey. Austin, a vegan who worked for the US Department of Housing and Urban Development, and Geoghegan, a vegetarian who worked in the Georgetown University admissions office, decided that they're were wasting their lives working.

"I’ve grown tired of spending the best hours of my day in front of a glowing rectangle, of coloring the best years of my life in swaths of grey and beige,” Austin wrote on his blog before he quit. “I’ve missed too many sunsets while my back was turned. Too many thunderstorms went unwatched, too many gentle breezes unnoticed.”

The couple documented their year-long journey on ​Instagram and on a ​joint blog. As The New York Times ​put it, they shared "the openheartedness they wanted to embody and the acts of kindness reciprocated by strangers."



“You read the papers and you’re led to believe that the world is a big, scary place," Austin wrote.



“People, the narrative goes, are not to be trusted. People are bad. People are evil."

“I don’t buy it," he continued. "Evil is a make-believe concept we’ve invented to deal with the complexities of fellow humans holding values and beliefs and perspectives different than our own... By and large, humans are kind. Self-interested sometimes, myopic sometimes, but kind. Generous and wonderful and kind.”

However, Austin and Geoghegan's dream trip came to a tragic and gruesome end when they got to Tajikistan, a country with a known terrorist threat and in close proximity to a terrorist presence in northern Afghanistan. They were riding their bikes through the country on July 29 when a car rammed them, ​​according to CBS News. Five men got out of the car and stabbed the couple to death along with two other cyclists, one from Switzerland and the other from the Netherlands.

Two days later, ISIS released a video showing the same men sitting in front of the group's black flag. They looked at the camera and vowed to kill "disbelievers," ​according to The New York Times.

Some conservatives have framed the tragedy as a cautionary tale about not just the perils of travel but also naivete in general. In their telling, an overly generous understanding of human nature is behind much of today's progressive movement, including calls to radically scale back immigration enforcement and policing and support for socialism.

Some liberals, for their part, might view Austin and Geoghegan as martyrs in the struggle for a better world, or simply as unfortunate. Experts on ​told The Washington Post, "Central Asia generally is fairly safe."

https://www.pluralist.com/posts/1824-millennial-couple-bikes-near-isis-territory-to-prove-humans-are-kind-and-gets-killed

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PostPosted: 19:05 - 16 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take your Brexit shit and go back to the Brexit thread.

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PostPosted: 19:10 - 16 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised they didn't keep her as a sex slave tbh. Obviously he is surplus to requirements, but women can be used to produce more Jihadis.
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 16 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised they had the energy to get as far as they did.
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 16 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I eat meat so I expect this is my fault?
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 16 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are some fucking idiots in the world and now there are 2 fewer.

I haven't the energy to feel sorry for these people just like I didn't have any sympathy for those 'bodyguards' who went to earn film star wages then wanted help when they got captured.
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 16 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I eat meat so I expect this is my fault?
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 16 Aug 2018    Post subject: Re: A vegan and a vegetarian went cycling near ISIS Reply with quote

Ste wrote:


you effing piece of poo

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=4575843#4575843

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PostPosted: 23:01 - 16 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Evil is a make-believe concept we’ve invented to deal with the complexities of fellow humans holding values and beliefs and perspectives different than our own...”

Congratulations you've just been educated by "fellow humans holding values and beliefs and perspectives different than [your] own”. Unfortunately they weren't interested in any complexities, so you won't get to enjoy any long lasting effects of their education. Possibly others might, but possibly not, since they'll likely be too busy virtue signalling and posting #prayfor... hashtags to appreciate the lesson being taught.

Nature is very good at weeding out the stupid and weak members of a herd population that are unable to deal with predators. I'm sure a similar process will occur in the UK in the coming years, as is already happening in Sweden.
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PostPosted: 03:26 - 17 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnnythefox wrote:
I eat meat so I expect this is my fault?


That depends upon whether you spit or swallow. Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 17 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 14:33 - 17 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

To quote Tom Hardy:
"I've lost faith in mankind to the extent that I look both ways when crossing a one way street"
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 17 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

You cant reason with these people, they will never see sense or reason. They believe they are right and simply wont listen.






All you can do is run them over and stab them.
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 17 Aug 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

bhinso wrote:
To quote Tom Hardy:
"I've lost faith in mankind to the extent that I look both ways when crossing a one way street"


What does “lost faith“ mean?
Does it mean Tom was Foolhardy at some stage and didn't look both ways? Shocked

And this story has been grossly mis-reported for effect and someone's other agenda.

They were no out to prove anything. They were doing what a lot of folk do. Doing what they enjoyed doing.

For Fuck Sake don't anyone have any fun and let the BCF council get wind of it.
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