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PostPosted: 15:16 - 11 Sep 2018    Post subject: the state of Labour party Reply with quote

Just a thread to track what the corbynites have been up to lately.

Let me do the honour first: the corbynites have gone in full fascist Bannon mode.

They vote out MPs for just been anti racist as we speak.

Corbynites are allies and aligned with anti-NATO anti-EU Putin apologists and anti-semites far-left "Die Linke".

https://i.imgur.com/wMcTvkH.png

John McDonnell boasting that he is racist and proud. Any similarities to facsist Bannon are not by accident.

https://i.imgur.com/bcOUI5Z.png

Corbyn in full Trump mode boasting about Brexit benefits:

https://i.imgur.com/D6JQ4Fc.png
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 11 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Labour is weird.

What they need to do is a Canada.

Years and years ago certain groups started asking for special treatment. They pointed towards a certain Ancient Abrahamic religion that had a thing about fire and shrubbery.

Anyway their members were allowed special courts under the law of this Ancient Abrahamic religion.

The Canadian government at the time said something to the effect that you're completely right. They do get preferential treatment and outlawed those special courts.
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PostPosted: 11:40 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like the best place for it.

Labour, doing their best to drum up anti Semitic hate again...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45634379

I wonder how many Jews were there?

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/attendees-wave-palestinian-flags-during-the-annual-labour-conference-picture-id1040615214
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I support Palestine" does not make someone any more a Jew-hater than "I support Brexit" makes anyone a Euro-hater.
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed. It is all a smear, albeit an effective one because Corbin hasn't done himself any favours by having historic links with terrorist organisations like the PLO. Note that he is not unique in being a British politician who is prepared to talk to terrorists...
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:
"I support Palestine" does not make someone any more a Jew-hater than "I support Brexit" makes anyone a Euro-hater.


Oh do me a favour. In the middle of the anti-Semitism row in the Labour party and they pull this stunt at their conference?!

Were you born yesterday?
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Indeed. It is all a smear, albeit an effective one because Corbin hasn't done himself any favours by having historic links with terrorist organisations like the PLO. Note that he is not unique in being a British politician who is prepared to talk to terrorists...


What's a smear? This actually happened and was quite clearly Labour stamping their anti Semitic viewpoint as openly as they can. Showing that level of support for one side is showing disdain for the other.

For the many not the Jew.

You think this sort of open attack is appropriate for a UK political party?
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sauce?

Link to the twitter post you got the graphics from please. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Sauce?

Link to the twitter post you got the graphics from please. Thumbs Up


It was all over the news. This image was just plucked from Google, not Twitter. I used the Bloomberg/Getty Images one.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=labour+conference+palestine&rlz=1C1CHBD_en-GBGB776GB776&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjRtNfm4djdAhUHTsAKHeidB9AQ_AUIECgD&biw=1517&bih=730

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45634379

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/emily-thornberry-palestine-anti-semitism-labour-party-racism/
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh no, not yours, I've already seen those and know that they're from somewhere reputable.

I'm asking about the ones Val posted, the one saying "This is the new "progressive" according to Corbyn" and the one about Labour being in full Trump mode.

He didn't make them, I'm sure of that much but its just interesting to see which twitter page he got them from.
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

MPG it is a smear because its intention is to discredit a person in public office by making people think that the Party he leads is anti-semitic. If it is anti-semitic, it wouldn't be a smear.

I agree that showing support for one group shows a corresponding lack of support for the other. This isn't anti-semitism though. If the placards said 'We don't like Jewish people in general' then it would be anti-semitic, but this is not the case. What the placards mean is that the Labour Party supports the Palestinians because it thinks what is happening to them in Palestine is wrong.

Its like being told that you hate your mum because she gives you fish fingers every Friday.
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Support for Palestine is meaningless as a statement. What they mean is support for Palestine... to win.

But what do the Palestinians and Muslims in general mean by winning? Living peacefully and happily alongside Jews as either fellow citizens or neighbours? Nope! Jews deported or exterminated. Zero Jews in the Muslims lands. That is what they mean. All other positions are just lily pads to put the Muslims back into a position where they can remove the Jews.

But when Muslims are in western countries they are happy to live alongside, as neighbours... until they are the majority. Then, well... Muslim Lands.
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diggs wrote:
MPG it is a smear because its intention is to discredit a person in public office by making people think that the Party he leads is anti-semitic. If it is anti-semitic, it wouldn't be a smear.


Oh come on, we all know the Labour Party are anti Semitic. Many of their MP's have been caught out for gobbing off about hating Jews. Their new MP from Canterbury was put in censure for opposing Antisemitism. This has all been in the news, maybe not The Guardian, but elsewhere. Maybe, if this has passed you by, you should broaden your news horizons?

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I agree that showing support for one group shows a corresponding lack of support for the other. This isn't anti-semitism though.


It's as near as they can openly make their stand against Jews without getting in too much shit. This is not just a speaker showing support though is it? It's half the fucking audience who've turned up with Palestinian flags.

What message do you think this is supposed to be sending out at a time where some in the labour Party don't like this Corbyn backing, far left Momentum funding, anti Semitic, bullying side of the party?

Labour are being accused of bullying anyone in the party who doesn't follow the Jew hating mantra. Anyone who speaks outagainst anti Semitism is bullied by the far left element and struck off.

https://metro.co.uk/2018/03/11/labour-bullying-row-shadow-minister-steps-aside-employment-issue-7379469/

And the Canterbury Labour MP...

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1015680/labour-news-jeremy-corbyn-labour-deselection

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JEREMY Corbyn has refused to “call the dogs off” as he faced Labour MPs who are being threatened with deselection over their efforts to stand up to anti-Semitism from his supporters.


Corbyn won't stand up to anit-Semitism, because the bulk of his supporters are openly anti-Semitic. He's no different himself, as are manby of his MP's, they just have to find ways to demonstrate it which they can deny. Such as this largest collection of Palestinian flags outside of Palestine. Not one Union Jack, all Palestinian, which kind of sums up Labour lately.

There's a real nasty side to this new Momentum/Corbyn Labour movement and most appear to be ignoring it.

I mean really nasty. The last party who hated the Jews this much were right wing, now it's the far left doing all the nasty racist shit, just not against anyone unless they're white.
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 16:22 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm neither Jewish or Palestinian so my view is like most people here - just a 'view'. The way I see it, if a state expands its borders into another country by forcibly removing a group of people and replacing it with its own, that is wrong. The fact that one side is Islamic and one Jewish should be academic, but sadly it isn't...
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

MDF I am confused. Are you saying that the Labour Party is racist towards white people to the exclusion of others? Shocked
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone watching the Labour party conference seen anything of that stain on humanity, that thing that shagged its way to Corbyn's cabinet, the hater of Britishness that has the maths skills of a 4 year old?

I of course speak of Diane Abbott.

Maybe it's just I haven't watched enough or maybe, just maybe she has been told to sit down and shut up and is on her way out Praying
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diggs wrote:
I'm neither Jewish or Palestinian so my view is like most people here - just a 'view'. The way I see it, if a state expands its borders into another country by forcibly removing a group of people and replacing it with its own, that is wrong. The fact that one side is Islamic and one Jewish should be academic, but sadly it isn't...


I agree Dicks. So how do you feel about Muslim communities bullying out the remaining indigenous folk in many U.K. towns and cities, to create their own caliphate?

Will the Labour Party be waving Union Flags in support, or is the skin colour of the victim not dark enough for you?
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Has anyone watching the Labour party conference seen anything of that stain on humanity, that thing that shagged its way to Corbyn's cabinet, the hater of Britishness that has the maths skills of a 4 year old?

I of course speak of Diane Abbott.

Maybe it's just I haven't watched enough or maybe, just maybe she has been told to sit down and shut up and is on her way out Praying


It's time to crack down on people with expensive houses, huge salaries of £100,000 and more, generous pensions, people driven around by a chauffeur...

People like Jeremy Laughing

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PostPosted: 20:03 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the many, not the Jew.
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Labour is the answer it must have been a fucking stupid question.
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

MGM I don't understand what you mean. Are you suggesting that we have lots of little caliphates in Britain? We have lots of areas where immigrants live, but as far as I know the same laws apply. Sounds like you are experiencing your own version of 'project fear'....

I see what you did there in your last sentence. You turned things around to suggest that I am a member of the Labour Party and asked me if, as a member, I have a view on whether said Party would support white folk if displaced by darkies in this country.

In answer, no. I am not a member of the Labour Party but I do hold values left of centre because I don't believe in advantage through birth. As for white folks potentially displaced by darkies, I agree it would be wrong. I don't think skin colour has anything to do with it and if anybody displaced me or my family I would be most miffed. What I don't agree with is the reactionary bandwagon you are on. Everything you write suggests that you want a race war in this country and that you think anybody who doesn't is somehow part of your problem. I bet you still enjoy a curry and a taxi home at night though..
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diggs wrote:
MGM I don't understand what you mean. Are you suggesting that we have lots of little caliphates in Britain? We have lots of areas where immigrants live, but as far as I know the same laws apply. Sounds like you are experiencing your own version of 'project fear'....

I see what you did there in your last sentence. You turned things around to suggest that I am a member of the Labour Party and asked me if, as a member, I have a view on whether said Party would support white folk if displaced by darkies in this country.

In answer, no. I am not a member of the Labour Party but I do hold values left of centre because I don't believe in advantage through birth. As for white folks potentially displaced by darkies, I agree it would be wrong. I don't think skin colour has anything to do with it and if anybody displaced me or my family I would be most miffed. What I don't agree with is the reactionary bandwagon you are on. Everything you write suggests that you want a race war in this country and that you think anybody who doesn't is somehow part of your problem. I bet you still enjoy a curry and a taxi home at night though..


Dreggs, I got as far as “the same laws apply” then gave up.

You realise we allow them to practice Sharia law in their own courts in this country, or do The Guardian hide this from their worshipers?

As for you not believing about advantage through birth, how do black only housing associations sit with you then? What about the BBC advertising roles only for blacks or ethnic minorities? Are you against this or does the colour of the victim rule apply again?

Nice to see you’re a fan of naive stereotypes though. Most taxi drivers where I live, outside of Londonistan, are English and white. It’s a bit racist if you to stereotype them all as BME’s.

Ah, you’re from Halifax. Makes perfect sense now, living in the shadow of Bradistan. How’s the case of the 29 Pakistani paedo’s going?
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
How’s the case of the 29 Pakistani paedo’s going?


Because no other race or religion has ever sexually abused children wholesale.

FACT.
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 26 Sep 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

For some reason you think I will defend a Pakistani paedo ring because I don't agree with your view on society. I give up.
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